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Cards on the table.

Alright guys, we’ve fast reached a place where the running and maintenance and well, popularity, of this place is making itself incompatible with holding down a full time job- which means I need to bite the bullet and try to make a living off this place or yanno, seriously consider walking away.

I’ve really loved developing this place, growing it and spending time here and I hope you guys have been enjoying it too. Because this is a place that has grown because of you guys and for you guys, I don’t want to give you the impression that I’m just grabbing for the cash or gouging but, like I’ve said many times, servers don’t pay for themselves and unfortuantely, contrary to popular rumour, we don’t actually have 9 houses and need to be able to feed the kids and pay the mortgage. Shocking. I know.

Read the rest of this heart-felt appeal- and a new competition- over the break.

So, up until now, TooSerious has been a labour of love but I’d love to be able to have the freedom to dedicate more time to the place and really realise its potential but I need your help to get there. I really don’t want to walk away or let the place fall into disrepair cause hey, I’m quite excited about maybe having the opportunity to make TooSerious even better. I’ve got a whole bunch of ideas on improvements I’d love to add and a list as long as my arm of fixes and tweaks that would add at least 40% more awesome to the joint and I’d love to have the time to get them in.

To this end, over the next couple of days, you’ll probably notice some new ad spaces popping up over the site. Yep- I’ll be cramming them in where-ever I can fit em! :P Now, before I go on, I just feel the need to say- a part of me hurts to be “selling out”, but I reckon we’re hitting a good balance here.

So, firstly, we’re going to try to keep the sponsorships for the newsletter which, I’m hoping, means we’ll be offering you guys some great deals- and personally, I reckon the last one worked out pretty well. What we’ll also be doing though, is for those of you who don’t mind checking the little box on your profile page, we’ll also be doing the occasional advertising newsletter. For these, we’ll get sent an ad with a deal a company wants to offer you guys that will be relevant and hopefully useful and then we send out the email. Your email addresses and details stay with us at all times, they wont be too frequent and we’ll only send them out if we think that there’s something in it for you guys who’ve signed up to get them (think, free bets and discounted booze) so… not just useless spam.

Now, here’s the deal- Ads that pay well don’t sign themselves up and the best way we can bring onboard advertisers who’ll pay the money to keep this show on the road is by having more registered users. I know that there’s a bunch of you out there who have friends who read along but aren’t signed up, and we really want people who use the site and play SuperCoach in here to keep growing our community and keeping it fun, so I thought we could make a game of this registration business.

I’m going to kick off a referral competition hopefully on Wednesday. He who brings in the most friends wins. And, hopefully, we’ll be able to dredge up a few prizes for a few randomly selected people who’ve joined in and given their support to the site.

For my part, I’ll be making some referal links and buttons to put on blogs and in signatures for forums but… we need something to play for so I’m going to put out the call for sponsors. If any of you guys have a business that you’d like to promote whilst giving us a big assist- here’s your chance! You can donate the goods and products of your business like iScent did last year with the perfume giveaways or you can make like Shaun from Bladerunner Property Services and use your hard earned to donate something fun if your business doesn’t lend itself to giveaways directly. (By the way, check that sight out if you’re in the Mornington Peninsula area and need some garden maintenence- they have been fantastic sponsors and supporters of this place!)

So that’s it, ads, opt-in emails and a drive to raise the number of registered users, that’s not too bad is it!? :D

That said, there’s other ways you can help support TooSerious:

1) Register! (Yes, talking to you Lurky McLurker!) You’re helping us out and getting all the benefits that come from logging in- you can upload your teams so that you can use all the tools to their best advantage as well as being able to join in with the discussion on the blog and in the forum.

2) Sign up for the newsletters and emails. The newsletters will always have some extra content in terms of articles and some nifty tools that are relevant to the issues of the week, really I’m looking forward to building this newsletter up- It’s good fun to write.

3) Advertise with us! If you have a business, we have some space to promote you. Get in touch. ;)

4) Donate. As always, we are extremely grateful for those of you who choose to support the site directly and donate. You guys have made it possible to get this far. There are a bunch of benefits for doing so like being able to upload unlimited teams in the league tracker and joining in the donor topics in the forum as well as the warm fuzzies you get from being able to help keep TooSerious up and running.

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85 Responses to “Cards on the table.”



  1. Bettsy says:

    Hey Walesy & Co have dusted off the wallet.

    I was a lurker last year, then Ben’s comments sucked me in.

    I never really looked at Breakevens or salary predictions, intil this year.

    My ranking for a couple of years was 30,000 now thanks to this site, Im just ouside the top 1000.

    I also cannot shut my mouth in the Live Game chat. Sorry must be annoying :)

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  2. haysie says:

    As with many of you I love this site and enjoy a weekly read of the articles. Having been heavily involved in the US version of fantasy football for the last 11 years, I too have seen the transformation of fantasy from the labourious print version of scoring to our luxurious computer version.
    To be competitive in any serious league a manager needs help from sites such as TS. My point being that these sites in the US do not offer free quality information. The one I used religiously was “thehuddle.com” which cost $24.95 a year. Just giving everyone an idea of the value we get on the TS site…..having said that,I’d better go and donate!

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  3. Stew says:

    Ahhh…. finally finished the 2011 vintage… anyone in the wine game will know that winemaking isn’t the ideal employment for playing supercoach (70 – 80 hrs of work per week for the first 9 rounds of AFL).
    Anyway, what I’m getting at is that the TS newsletter came in very handy the last two weeks, as a quick reference to keep up to date with what’s happening both statistically and injury/form wise, for those of us that haven’t had much free time to be floating around the forums or the stats pages. I can see the newsletter evolving into a very widely distributed peice of information….. I printed the last one off to show the boys at work…. I think they may have finally clicked as to the reason they cop a whopping every year in SC…. as much as it hurt to give up the advantage…. for the greater good and all that….

    Great work though Walsey… you can even send a door to door salesman selling tupperware around to my house if you want…. anything to keep TS going strong.

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  4. jo says:

    Wait… You’re a vintner, Stew?

    TS Party at Stews house! :P

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  5. TN says:

    About to donate for second time this year. I don’t have enough time to contribute to discussion, so hopefully my donations make up for it.

    Even though I have never personally met any of the main contributors to this site, you can sense there is a real decent quality about each and every one of them, lead admirably by Walesy.

    Thanks to Walesy and the team of volunteers that help make this site the best in its field by a country mile. Looks like its time to take it to the next level.

    Good luck guys!!

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  6. Stew says:

    Hmm… now if only we could find someone who makes party pies, chicko rolls and cornjacks for a living…
    …. and maybe a bouncy castle operator…

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  7. stugr says:

    Good idea on getting people to complete the registration. Last year I posted as “Nicks” and fought with Ben (didn’t we all?) – this year I went to sign up at about 11pm and the rego email got caught up in my mail filtering and I pretty much forgot to go back for it. Now I have and ticked the boxes!

    Maybe edit in the instructions into the main post as comment 1 is no longer on the same page as the post?

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  8. Dirty_Whorks says:

    Flipped you some coin. Expect the scarf in the mail…

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  9. Having spent many countless hours on this site and thoroughly enjoying every minute, I have to congratulate Walesy and everyone who contributes to the running and up keep of this site.

    I have been looking at Too Serious for a couple of years but only registered last year and then became a donor this year.

    The interaction of the site is fantastic and almost all times feedback is constructive and encouraging.

    The information contained herein is better than Gold its Platinum and whilst I am not the guru of Supercoach just yet I have certainly changed the way I go about things and I have a far better understanding of the game and how to play it better.

    Bottom Line –
    IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT SUPERCOACH YOU NEED TOOSERIOUS !!

    When you consider how many hours many of us are here, reading posting, evaluating our teams it really is a worthwhile investment to donate. I for one would like to see the site get as much time and attention as Walesy can put in. This will only make it better for us as the end users.

    It wont take huge amounts from each person to make some really serious (TooSerious) monetary contributions towards the improving the site (not thats its not fantastic already!!) and going some way to remunerating Walesy and his co contributors for the hard work and effort that they put in.

    I really would encourage all readers/site users to register and support Walesy even if its only to add the numbers of users that he can put in front of advertisers.

    Further to that if you enjoy this site and you want to see it around for the long haul then please don’t hold back make a donation and together we can all see this site prosper. After all it is being put out into the public arena for our benefit.

    Thankyou TooSerious!! and Walesy :) U R A LEGEND MATE :)

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  10. meataxe says:

    This is definitely one of the best websites on the net – a generous community of posters discussing a common interest in the right spirit. And all done without excessive profanities or heavy-handed moderation, something that is all too rare nowadays.

    The quality of the posts, posters, and all the innovations (B/E, Ticker, etc) are a great credit to you, Walesy, and I hope that TS continues to head in the right direction.

    To this end, mate, more than happy to add more donations. Now let’s hope this brings me some good karma and gets my SC team heading in the right direction =)

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  11. Lucas says:

    I agree meataxe it is good.

    I’ll have to tone down my live chat. Sometimes I just wonder if people want to have some comedy as well, something to lighten their weekends.

    One thing I like on this site is though we are all often pushing the same trades and barrows, we offer enough opportunities for people to voice their different tactics to get them to the top.

    Eventually that means we all benefit, someone gets lucky that year and the site attracts a good deal of success.

    Once again, I’d like to congratulate the members of the number one league. It’s really tough to take that spot, and I reckon much more than the overall winner, this is the one that sites like this are really aiming for.

    It’s almost like the difference between the single sculls and the dragon boat race!

    Now…time for me to write a best buys (and a beat the best if I can manage it…time is really tight fur mich)

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  12. didge604 says:

    This site is fantastic and I know we all appreciate the hard work behind the scenes. For some reason my donation failed the first time and I’ve been a bit lazy. Not any more! Thanks again guys!

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  13. Tigerman says:

    Another donation sent, this site is gold and if it closed down, playing Supercoach would not be the same.

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  14. stowie says:

    I love this place and not only during SC season, but for the NFL and NBA played recently.

    Will drop a few more $$$ through when the Mavs get up and J-Kidd wins a title finally.

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  15. Woody says:

    Sorry for such a delay in donating folks; this site has been so informative and a fantastic resource with generous sharing of ideas. Good luck in making this more of a paid role! If only cricket lended itself better to fantasy games (I really don’t think it does!) I’d be on here all-year round.
    I’ve only ever been a league player but next year I may as well have a tilt at the big one – TS has helped in developing knowledge on how best to play SC strategically which has only added to its enjoyment.
    Thanks TS crew!

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  16. fryzie says:

    meataxe, couldn’t agree more, the community we have here is brilliant. I used to frequent the DT Talk site a lot in its early days but all if a sudden every topic became a shit slinging fight rather than constructive discussion. The DT guys still provide a lot of useful stuff and good entertainment but there’s no point trying to discuss trading strategy with other members anymore.

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  17. festerdb5 says:

    just want to continue the sentiments above.
    love the site, the banter, the analysis and the ideas.
    I easily get my money back by fleecing my mates each year in our little league comps.
    I reckon Haysie’s point above is an idea to consider – a lot of people here happy to pay for access to this community so a user pays model could be the way forward……..
    thanks again to all – helps to keep me sane while I travel too……….and on that point, I was in Delhi yesterday talking to the trade commissioner about Supercoach and we were both hyper-thankful that tooserious exists.
    Supercoach legends one-day, world domination the next!

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  18. Lucas says:

    Maybe the trade commissioner can factor in some kickbacks for Walesy.

    Oil for tips maybe haha

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  19. fatrab says:

    Is it not possible to make this site subscriber only? $10 a year, 1000 subscribers. $10k.. I’m sure that should cover the running costs and it is a better alternative to SC Gold.

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  20. BlueBoysRule says:

    I just donated $50 love this website, I am on it every day :)

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  21. I reckon I spend more time here than on the Hun, Caro’s broadsheet and Andrew’s ode to Telstra combined for all things footy. Walesy, Lucas and co, you’ve taken this site from just a bunch of us geeky coaches to a full on Fantasy heaven.

    I’m excited by what a full-time commitment might look like Walesy!

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  22. clackerz says:

    I just flung a donation your way.
    I’ve gone along the lines of subscriber.
    Instead of a larger one-off I’m going to donate every year.
    They way I see it is a constant flow is better than a damn buster!

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  23. Nick says:

    Am on here every day, such a good community.

    Just donated – all you regular users should do the same!

    Fantastic stuff.

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  24. walesy says:

    Just on subscriptions- I can’t see us ever moving to that kind of model- This place is a place for like-minded fantasy sports nuts to get together and talk about the various games that have brought us in here. I’d hate to ever put that ideal in jeopardy.

    That said, if we can rock out with ads and donations- damn, that would be awesome!

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  25. Hey Walsey, just on side note i cant seem to comment on the wall all sudden :(

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  26. walesy says:

    hmmm, the wall hey- dunno what happened there, but a couple of refreshes and bang- it’s working for me again… hmmm, i’ll take a closer look at it if it keeps on being stupid.

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  27. Yep working again for me :D i am liking that it doesnt take you to some random page after you post in it now :)

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  28. mouseman says:

    All done.

    Good work guys

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  29. walesy says:

    Yeah, it seems a couple of the gremlins in the system got sorted out with the speed releases. :)

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  30. peps_12 says:

    well, there you go, I have gone and done it now…I have posted my referrer link in the Psyche Out page of three of my five leagues. I must admit, I selfishly didnt spread the word in the $$comp (or its related free comp), cos I’m sitting astride the top of the ladder and dont want to give up the advantage just yet!

    good luck on the membership drive, boys. I’m off to spend my free bet at IAS Bet….

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  31. ozbot75 says:

    Do you have a iphone app yet? The Supercoach app is very limited in every way. Happy to pay $4.99 for it…

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  32. benno44 says:

    yo walesy, is there an option where we can give you, say, thirty bucks and we don’t get the ads? i’d go for that.

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  33. benno44 says:

    tell you what i don’t want to see – ads for gambling companies.

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  34. walesy says:

    The ad on the stats page currently disappears for donors. :)

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  35. 911HS says:

    if i finish top 1000 i’ll donate 50 to 100 bucks.

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