Hearing that the giants feel that their depth after 25 is lacking and they want bodies who can step straight into the game

I'm hearing the same, but feel we could have done better, time will tell

Reckon Mzungu, coming in as your 26/27th player isn't really a bad thing! He's a jobber, no doubt, but given the list profile of the Giants, it's not like they need to be filling the bottom end of their rookie lists with projects!

It's those dirt-cheap, older, under appreciated pickups that have enabled the Giants to do what they have done for mine. In contrast to the Suns pay-big-dollars-of-current-superstars model.

Would have preferred Mitch Grigg if there was a need to fill than Mzungu, at least De Boer may be young enough to develop from a base, as opposed to degenerate from ala Mzungu

The rookie draft has wrapped up, here are all the picks made with passes removed from the pick numbering

Round Pick Club Player Club of origin
1 1 Essendon FC Sam Draper South Adelaide
1 2 Brisbane Jake Barrett GWS Giants new club
1 3 Fremantle Football Club Taylin Duman Oakleigh Chargers
1 4 Gold Coast Suns Keegan Brooksby Gold Coast Suns relisted
1 5 Carlton FC Kim LeBois North Adelaide
1 6 Richmond Tyson Stengle Woodville West Torrens
1 7 Collingwood Mitch McCarthy Dandenong Stingrays
1 8 Melbourne Lachlan Filipovic Sandringham Dragons
1 9 Port Adelaide Peter Ladhams Norwood
1 10 St Kilda Rowan Marshall North Ballarat
1 11 North Melbourne Cameron Zurhaar East Fremantle
1 12 West Coast Eagles Thomas Gorter East Perth
1 13 Adelaide Football Club Saw Shaw Adelaide Football Club relisted (but retired due to concussion)
1 14 Hawthorn Football Club Oliver Hanrahan St Kevin's College
1 15 GWS Giants Tendai Mzungu Fremantle Football Club new club
1 16 Geelong Jack Henry Geelong Falcons
1 17 SydneyBen Ronke Calder Cannons
1 18 Western Bulldogs Nathan Mullenger-McHugh Eastern Ranges

2 19 Essendon FC Shaun McKernan Essendon FC relisted
2 20 Brisbane Mitchell Hinger Glenelg
2 21 Fremantle Football Club Luke Strnadica East Fremantle
2 22 Gold Coast Suns Cameron Loersch Gold Coast Suns relisted
2 23 Carlton FC Alex Silvagni Fremantle Football Club new club
2 24 Collingwood Henry Schade Gold Coast Suns new club
2 25 Melbourne Tim Smith Casey Scorpions
2 26 Port Adelaide Brett Eddy South Adelaide
2 27 North Melbourne Oscar Junker Western Jets
2 28 West Coast Eagles Drew Petrie North Melbourne Kangaroos new club
2 29 Hawthorn Football Club Jack Fitzpatrick Hawthorn Football Club relisted
2 30 GWS Giants Joel Patfull GWS Giants relisted (but apparently unlikely to un-retire)
2 31 Geelong Zach Guthrie Calder Cannons
2 32 Sydney Robbie Fox Coburg
2 33 Western Bulldogs Joshua Prudden Western Bulldogs relisted
3 34 Essendon FC Yestin Eades Essendon FC relisted
3 35 Brisbane Oscar McInerney Casey Scorpions
3 36 Fremantle Football Club Brady Grey Fremantle Football Club relisted
3 37 Carlton FC Andrew Gallucci Carlton FC relisted
3 38 Collingwood Liam Mackie Glenelg Football club
3 39 Melbourne Declan Keillty Casey Scorpions
3 40 Port Adelaide Jarrod Leinert Sturt FC
3 41 North Melbourne Matthew Taylor Perth
3 42 West Coast Eagles Fraser McInnes West Coast Eagles relisted
3 43 Adelaide Football Club Ben Jarman North Adelaide F/S
3 44 Hawthorn Football Club James Cousins Murray Bushrangers
3 45 Geelong Jarmaine Jones North Ballarat Rebels
3 46 Sydney Shaun Edwards Essendon FC new club

4 47 Fremantle Football Club Josh Deluca-Cardillo Peel Thunder
4 48 Collingwood Max Lynch Murray Bushrangers
4 49 Geelong Sam Simpson Geelong Falcons F/S
4 50 Sydney Toby Pink Glenelg

In addition Max Spencer (Gold Coast) and Zach Sproule (GWS) will join their clubs as academy pre-selections, NEAFL player Blake Grewar has been rookie listed by the Brisbane Lions under Queensland list rules and the same rules have seen Sam Fisher join Sydney.

Category B rookie spots may be allocated to international players and players who have not been registered for at least three years
- Mark O'Connor (Geelong), Connor Nash (Hawthorn), Darragh Joyce (St Kilda) and Ray Connellan (St Kilda) are all from Ireland
- Corey Maynard (Melbourne) and Jack Stein (GWS) are 3-year non-registered players

There's also a spot reserved for the winner of the Fox Footy reality show, The Recruit.
- Matt Eagles (Brisbane Lions)

That's 2017 AFL lists just about finalised unless there is another window for DFA's being signed by the clubs with 1 or 2 spots on their primary list prior to final list lodgement on Wednesday November 30.

gogogo Drapes!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-28/bombers-take-punt-on-former-soccer-player-at-no1

Good to see so many rookie rucks selected, hopefully some have F/R, all are bargain priced and a few do well in the pre-season and give options for those deciding on a Playing R3 vs Ruck Donut strategy.

Perhaps they just want guys on their list from every age group, I remember the Blues drafted/traded with that approach recently. Not that it helped Carlton particularly, but I'm pretty sure that Liam Jones was recruited predominantly on the "age profile" basis.

** note already posted in another thread**

I saw this article regarding last years draftees on the AFL site, for me it will be a handy reference for those looking at sub $200k players coming off their second preseason

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-20/a-year-on-how-your-clubs-2015-draftees-fared

@Jason you shared an awesome stats sheet last year, any chance it may be available this year also?

Sorry to take so long to reply Len, must not have seen this tag at the time.

I don't think it was me who made any stats sheet last year, I don't think I've done one for more like 24 months.

If I have the time over the next month or so though, there is a decent chance that I'll work up something. Always happy to share this sort of stuff with the good folk on TS.

Cheers mate, must have been the year before as it was yours, I stripped out the FL stuff and replaced with FA, was a really nice piece fo work.

Once Les updates the stats I can draw down and create them properly, @walesy any word on timing?

Read that sc is opening on the 24th, so I should be able to grab something then.

Will need AFL fantasy to open before I can roll the site completely over though. Haven't heard their days yet