2017 Pre season Auction thread

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  1. Darran

    Darran Well-Known Member

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    I would think that the above sentence in rule 4(e) would suggest that an auction bid would have to wait until veto period has passed, otherwise the bid is conditional upon the previous trade not being vetoed which is inconsistent with the rules as they currently stand.
     
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  2. James84

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    I think for the sake of clarity we need to commit to only using assets that are valid before the auction ends. I am reverting back to the previous leading bid by @thokash

     
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  3. leematty1

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    The previous winning bid would.

    I feel it's harsh to add in a rule mid trade period that knocks me out of the running. Changes my team structure for trades I've done with others if I'm ineligible to on trade pick 16 when there is nothing in the rules to say you can't on trade before veto period, especially when the trade for pick 16 should have no reason to be vetoed as its not a lopsided trade (happy for others to say otherwise).

    Can we clarify officially as I can't complete other trades/auction bids before tonight's deadlines please.
     
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    leematty1 Well-Known Member

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    Ok guess I am overruled. Not happy
     
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    leematty1 Well-Known Member

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    Let's try again shall we. Hopefully no technicalities this time.

    Bid for Wallis; instead of the debated pick 16, we will add in pick 19 and pick 67, as well as the second round MSD still
     
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    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    good pickup!
     
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    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    I reckon @Darran found it anyway, in 4e: No bid can be conditional on outcomes not directly related to the auction at hand

    Also, I dont think anyone was trying to make up a new rule, it was just that there were different interpretations of the rules. It would have been up to the Board to resolve a difference of interpretation...
     
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  8. leematty1

    leematty1 Well-Known Member

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    Definately open to misinterpretation. Just gonna have to hope new bid is sufficient. :)
     
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    No worries, sorry about the muck around. Not trying to be a complete pain just trying to keep it reasonably straightforward for future transactions!

    New leading bid.
     
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    thokash Full-Time Magician Staff Member

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    Wow looks like I missed some action in here. Not sure if this will beat leematty's bid, but either way will probably be my final one

    Pick 26 & 74 and 1st round MSD
     
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    Not quite, just a preference on PSD position keeps @leematty1 in the lead

    Auction ends at 9pm
     
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    One of the things about rules is they are useless, infuriating and generally negative in impact unless the spirit of the rule is held to be more important than the definition.

    The spirit of the veto rule is that exists to prevent deliberate collusion, it is not there to protect the stupid from themselves.

    It would be reasonably clear to anyone that the trade involving pick 16 had as much chance of being veto'd as I do of being prime minister.
     
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    Auction Ended

    @leematty1and Mount Thirsty Boozers win the services of Mitch Wallis and send Mole Creek PSD picks 19 and 67 as well as their 2nd round MSD pick.
     
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    Now that the Wallis auction is closed. Time to turn attention to leuy. The boozers up the bid to pick 35.
     
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    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    i was just getting on to make a bid, was waiting til I got home from work and this is first chance all evening. I forgot what time the auction was closing, damn!
    I doubt I wouldve won anyway
     
    anthak, Feb 10, 2017
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    Boozers take lead for Leuy
     
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    Macquarie Island improve our bid for leuy to PSD pick 31

    Sent from my HTC_0P6B6 using Tapatalk
     
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    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow less than 15 min to go now
     
    anthak, Feb 10, 2017
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    Mobys back in lead.
     
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    That KI Guy Moderator Staff Member

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    Auction closed

    Matt Leuenberger heads to Macquarie Island with pick 31 making its way to Neptune Island.
     
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