2019 PreSeason Completed Trades

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  1. Fitzy

    Fitzy Well-Known Member

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    I think besides all the little jabs and feelings this has been a pretty good discussion. The trade does seem mutually beneficial (short v long term). Even if one party may have been able to get more from others, at the end of the day they were offered something that in their view benefits them and took it, understandable really.
     
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  2. dmandrews

    dmandrews Well-Known Member

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    As per the auction thread the Wagga Wagga Wombats receive Jordan Roughead and PSD pick 53 from the Cradle Mountain Devils who in return receive the Wombats Round 1 mid-season draft selection and PSD pick 61.
     
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  3. ChiefRussell

    ChiefRussell Well-Known Member

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    Given I made the first comment about lop sidedness that may have started all this, I’ll try and add my 2c in a bit more detail.

    I don’t think there was any collusion or underhandedness. I didn’t even think about relationships outside the game until far later. It was never my reason for the comment. No ones integrity is being called into question by me.

    I just think it was a lop sided trade. Mundy and Sloane are still both in the top handful of players in their position. Picks 15, 38 and Matt Kennedy don’t get close to this. Despite how the trade is justified as a win for both parties, my view on this hasn’t and won’t change.

    I didn’t veto because maybe I read the rules wrong, but I thought the time limit for vetos had already expired by the time I saw the trade. So what was the point of doing it.

    My concerns with what trades like this do are part of an increasing pattern (and yes, I realise I have been part of this pattern). Lower ranked clubs very rarely seem to get off the bottom and farming off their best scoring players to teams in the ‘premiership window’ only prolongs these premiership windows and keeps lower sides further away. I know it’s a keeper league, but there has to be more ‘short term’ rewards for everyone in the league to have people continuing to commit every year. Eight year rebuilds don’t provide this.

    I’m not saying I have a solution. I just don’t think that trades where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer under the guise of a long term strategy that you almost have to get 100% right are good for the overall health of the comp.
     
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  4. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    FWIW, it looks like you first commented less than an hour after the trade was posted.
    The veto period is 48 hours, which has now passed a couple of hours ago, today.
     
  5. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    Also, I didn't explicitly state it here:
    but I was happy to remove my veto after the more detailed explanation involving the pick swaps.

    I still think the trade is a bit lopsided, but not veto worthy to me.
     
  6. ChiefRussell

    ChiefRussell Well-Known Member

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    It took me significantly longer to find the rules though haha
     
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  7. Lenny120

    Lenny120 Well-Known Member

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    As per auction thread...
    the Hoppers receive Clayton Oliver and PSD pick #43
    Wagga Wagga receive Cam Rayner, Ed Curnow and PSD pick #16.
     
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  8. That KI Guy

    That KI Guy Moderator Staff Member

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    er I think thats meant to read Lefties not Cows
     
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  9. graeme

    graeme Well-Known Member

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    I am very happy with that outcome Lenny. Pleasure dealing with you.
     
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  10. snoz

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    Hahahaha HOPPERS Lenny!!
     
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  11. Lenny120

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    Edited. As if we needed any more drama! How I still confuse names with teams to this day I'll never know.
     
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  12. That KI Guy

    That KI Guy Moderator Staff Member

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    Popcorn-fueled trading!

    Hoppers send Hardwick, PSD 43 and PSD 70 to the Goon for Dawson, Mathieson and PSD 33
     
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  13. Lenny120

    Lenny120 Well-Known Member

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    Wagga Wagga and Marble Bar reach a deal.
    WW receive Orazio Fantasia and PSD pick #30
    MB receive Jamie Macmillan and PSD pick #25
     
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  14. Bandit

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    @snoz on a rampage

    Spelunkers send Mark Blicavs to the Hoppers in exchange for Will Walker and Gundagai's MSD Round 2 pick
     
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    Wanderers trade Alex Rance to the Hoppers for pick 33
     
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  16. Lenny120

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    Wagga Wagga receive #72
    Gariwerd receive Cam guthrie
     
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  17. Fitzy

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    Wagga Wagga trade O’Brien and receive #70 from Larrikan Lagoon

    Acting as a messenger here I’m sure both will confirm soon enough
     
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  18. That KI Guy

    That KI Guy Moderator Staff Member

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    Confirmed
     
  19. Len

    Len Cockburn Knightrider Staff Member

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    I am unable to see where 72 left the Nuffers, should this be 74?
    @anthak
    @Lenny120
     
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  20. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes, it was supposed to be 74.
    I’ve just checked our convo and it was 74 we discussed.
     
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