Each deal in detail, followed by list movements over the entire trade period Confirmed deals: Marble Bar trade Cale Morton to Venus Bay for Daniel Giansiracusa Mount Beauty trade Jacks Watts and Luke Parker to venus Bay in Exchange for Josh Drummond and Pick 8 Venus Bay trade Jon Giles and Terry Milera to Charlie's Opening in exchange for Matthew Kreuzer and Brent Moloney Iron Knob trade Anthony Morabito to Venus Bay in exchange for Sam Day Iron Knob trade Scott Lycett to Charlie's Opening in exchange for Jarrad Grant Marble Bar trade Luke Dahlhaus and pick 39 to Foul Bay for Brad Sewell and pick 54 Marble Bar trade Tory Dickson to Mount Beauty in exchange for Courtney Dempsey Charlie's Opening trade Zac Clarke and picks 32 and 50 to Birdsville in exchange for Jarrad Redden and picks 30 and 48 Larrikin Lagoon trade Shaun Higgins to Venus bay in exchange for Tendai Mzungu Foul Bay trade Shane Tuck, Jared Rivers and Jay Schulz to Wagga Wagga for Jimmy Bartel, Leigh Adams and Garrick Ibbotson Larrikin Lagoon trade Bryce Gibbs and pick 56 to Venus bay for Heath Scotland and pick 26 Larrikin Lagoon trade Taylor Hunt to Wagga Wagga in exchange for Keiren Harper Powlett Plains have traded Adam Cooney to Larrikin Lagoon in exchange for Claye Beams. Larrikin Lagoon have traded Tyson Goldsack to Venus Bay in exchange for Ed Curnow Larrikin Lagoon have traded Shane Savage to Charlie's Opening in exchange for Heath Grundy Charlie's Opening have traded Robin Nahas to Mt Beauty in exchange for Andrew Mackie Charlie's Opening have traded pick 14 to Larrikin Lagoon for Jack Gunston Powlett's Plains have traded pick 41 to Mount Beauty for Jake Melksham Gariwerd have traded Matt Priddis, Angus Monfries and picks 27 and 45 to Larrikin Lagoon for Allen Christensen, Adam Cooney, and picks 20 and 26 Trade deals by Club Birdsville In: Zac Clarke Pick 32 Pick 50 Out: Jarrad Redden Pick 30 Pick 48 Charlie's Opening In: Jon Giles Terry Milera Scott Lycett Jarrad Redden Pick 30 Pick 48 Shane Savage Andrew Mackie Jack Gunston Out: Matthew Kreuzer Brent Moloney Jarrad Grant Zac Clarke Pick 32 Pick 50 Heath Grundy Robin Nahas Pick 14 Cradle Mountain In: Out: Darraweit Guim In: Out: Far Kew In: Out: Foul Bay In: Luke Dahlhaus Draft Pick 39 Jimmy Bartel Leigh Adams Garrick Ibbotson Out: Brad Sewell Draft Pick 54 Shane Tuck Jared Rivers Jay Schulz Gariwerd In: Allen Christensen Adam Cooney Pick 20 Pick 26 Out: Matt Priddis Angus Monfries Pick 27 Pick 45 Gundagai In: Out: Iron Knob In: Sam Day Jarrad Grant Out: Anthony Morabito Scott Lycett Larrikin Lagoon In: Tendai Mzungu Heath Scotland Pick 26 Keiren Harper Adam Cooney Ed Curnow Heath Grundy Pick 14 Matt Priddis Angus Monfries Pick 27 Pick 45 Out: Shaun Higgins Bryce Gibbs Pick 56 Taylor Hunt Claye Beams Tyson Goldsack Shane Savage Jack Gunston Allen Christensen Adam Cooney Pick 20 Pick 26 Marble Bar In: Daniel Giansiracusa Brad Sewell Pick 54 Courtney Dempsey Out: Cale Morton Luke Dahlhaus Pick 39 Tory Dickson Mt Beauty In: Tory Dickson Josh Drummond Pick 8 Robin Nahas Pick 41 Out: Courtney Dempsey Jack Watts Luke Parker Andrew Mackie Jake Melksham Nunawading In: Out: Powlett Plains In: Claye Beams Jake Melksham Out: Adam Cooney Pick 41 Venus Bay In: Cale Morton Matthew Kreuzer Brent Moloney Anthony Morabito Shaun Higgins Bryce Gibbs Pick 56 Tyson Goldsack Jack Watts Luke Parker Out: Daniel Giansiracusa Jon Giles Terry Milera Sam Day Tendai Mzungu Heath Scotland Pick 26 Ed Curnow Josh Drummond Pick 8 Wagga Wagga In: Shane Tuck Jared Rivers Jay Schulz Taylor Hunt Out: Jimmy Bartel Leigh Adams Garrick Ibbotson Keiren Harper Waikickamoocow In: Out: Whitsundays In: Out:
I have also traded out Josh Drummond and pick 8, and recieved Jack Watts and Luke Parker But very good Bandit!
Thanks Fitzy, I'll update this thread, don't post further updates in here, keep them for the trading block... this was meant to be a nice simple one pager where people could see what the hell was going on without having to trawl through 5 pages of posts
There was no way I was trading for older players until next trade period. Effectively pick 8 for Watts and Parker!!!!!!!! Parker a good young mid and Watts 22 year old who averaged 86, and could very well be a defender next season. Ay, ay, ay! un gato malodoro no es bueno!!!!!
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<blockquote>Quote from Philosoraptor on October 1, 2012, 10:10 There was no way I was trading for older players until next trade period. Effectively pick 8 for Watts and Parker!!!!!!!! Parker a good young mid and Watts 22 year old who averaged 86, and could very well be a defender next season. Ay, ay, ay! un gato malodoro no es bueno!!!!!</blockquote> Why didn't anyone veto the trade? Seems we were picking a choosing our vetos and I couldn't cancel the trade less than 24 hours later like some others as well! As I said earlier stiff shit to me.
Drummond hadn't retired at the time lets remember... just unlucky for bama that he has retired after the trade was in cement.
I think with this in mind maybe we should review the trade period timing for next year until after lists are finalised... just sayin'
We do have a trade period next year also, if you decide to enter the market you become responsible for your own outcomes, nothing forcing anyone to trade a thing... I vetoed the only trade that I thought was ridiculuos, rightly or wrongly.
There was a clear warning out there early on in the thread that it was folly to trade during this period as the real AFL clubs have yet to confirm their own delistments, retirements and trades. 7 teams chose not to trade during this period. What we perhaps do need to discuss is the reason behind the veto. Why do we have it and what purpose does it serve? My understanding is that it is primarily designed to prevent collusion between two teams that would presumably have some detrimental effect on the team exercising the veto. "Ridiculous" doesn't seem to fall into that category. Also, having second thoughts about a completed trade and getting your 'collaborators' to veto it is certainly not within the intent of the rule. It is noted that, to date, the ORFFL have never had the need for a veto.
And thanks to Bandit for getting it up. It is now the responsibility of individual coaches to update their teams in the Stats page to reflect these trade changes. Since walesy is in the process of software updates, suggest you do this sooner rather than later. But not later than 14 October please. If for some reason you are not able to update your team. Scream.
It is my view that any reason one holds to cast a veto vote is fine. The decision to veto should be up to each individual and IMO it should not matter how they come to that decision. We need a significant amount of people to all veto for it to actually go through so that would weed out any bogus veto voters anyway.
bah ok, here is my real reason for vetoing that trade, and figuring that the rest could slide. 1. It was clearly lopsided. 2. It was lopsided and between two freinds outside the league. 3. It was lopsided, between two freinds outside the league, the person trading "poorly" was new to the league and could have been deemed to "owe" the other party for his spot. 4. I didn't think was dishonest, just stupid and influeneced by factors the rest of us don't deal with, to my knowledge. Apologies to Fitzy, but he has demonstrated an ability to trade well and cop flack well, therefore doesn't need shielding from what my thoughts were at the time. Having cards on the table, I really don't feel I need the power of veto, but I do think the league does, collusion is real, just like tanking and free agency
Lenh if you are saying that Lenny did that trade to "pay me back" for getting him in this league then you are wrong. If there was a reason he did the trade it might of just been the excitement of the ORFFA, I don't know, just a guess. But it definitely wasn't him paying me back. Also its spelt friends
<blockquote>Quote from Fitzy on October 1, 2012, 19:56 Also its spelt friends </blockquote> <img 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<blockquote>Quote from Fitzy on October 1, 2012, 19:56 Lenh if you are saying that Lenny did that trade to "pay me back" for getting him in this league then you are wrong. If there was a reason he did the trade it might of just been the excitement of the ORFFA, I don't know, just a guess. But it definitely wasn't him paying me back. Also its spelt friends </blockquote> I have enviable spelling skills, but am an average typist. I take you at your word Fitzy, I just elaborated on why I chose to vote veto on that trade and not any other.
<blockquote>Quote from TerryinBangkok on October 1, 2012, 17:26 There was a clear warning out there early on in the thread that it was folly to trade during this period as the real AFL clubs have yet to confirm their own delistments, retirements and trades. 7 teams chose not to trade during this period. </blockquote> Fair shout TiB, I yield <img src="http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/rkt/MEDIUM//04/57/45772.jpg" />