2017 MSD Discussion Thread

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  1. JPK

    JPK Moderator Staff Member

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    Quick notes:
    MSD will occur during the bye rounds, specifically (although subject to confirmation):
    Mon 29th May 8AM......Trading commences
    Mon 12th June 8PM.....Trading ends
    Mon 12th June 10PM.....Delistments to be finalised
    Tues 13th June 8PM.....MSD commences
    Tues 20th June 10PM..... All teams to be at 28 players
    MSD will be reverse ladder order based on POINTS FOR.

    MSD is not compulsary.

    Time limits and time frames (ie clock not counting between midnight and 8am) will apply as per all other drafts.

    We should be pretty well up with this by now, so its just the dates and the order that most will care about.

    Pick Coach Team Points For
    Pick 1 fresh CBC 10988
    Pick 2 ttt PEP 11122
    Pick 3 tomster GG 11212
    Pick 4 chop BB 11251
    Pick 5 martyg BBU 11680
    Pick 6 holky EW 11727
    Pick 7 batfink HPD 11825
    Pick 8 dd saints PAKP 11877
    Pick 9 tylo KIM 11973
    Pick 10 damo CIS 11995
    Pick 11 tyze SFB 12012
    Pick 12 insider AA 12205
    Pick 13 mick KB 12207
    Pick 14 jpk CP 12329
    Pick 15 ee SCS 12409
    Pick 16 wright brendan SB 12569
    Pick 17 yad GEB 12819
    Pick 18 bryzza NV 13403

    *insider edit: quick order as it stands PRIOR to any trading of picks



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  2. insider

    insider Administrator Staff Member

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    *COUGH* excuse me Sir however i think you will find it is a rubber stamped bona fide rule that trading can be completed during all drafts
     
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  3. choppers

    choppers Well-Known Member

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    This says it's up to the Commish or the Board. @insider Can you point me to where the change was made.
    6. DRAFT

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    (d) Players can’t be “reserved” (ala the Father-son rule) for drafts. Each coach will pick in the order of their eligible draft picks, and may select any of the available players that they chose. (The option of trading during drafts is designed to allow coaches to bid for players that they wanted but missed out on) unless otherwise specified by the Board or Commissioner (e.g. Beta-4 Player Carlie).
    Read more at http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/orffu-rules-2016.89266/#UzvozdfszFUbx0am.99
     
  4. insider

    insider Administrator Staff Member

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    Show me where it says it's not permitted mate? Sure, there's a provision to deny, but why change rules on the fly? There was a poll 2 or 3 years ago and it was accepted and written as a rule. No need to modify it for no reason
     
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  5. choppers

    choppers Well-Known Member

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    Mate, I'm not advocating changing anything. all I did was copy and paste an excerpt from the 2016 Rules thread. So if it was polled and changed then we need to change the latest 2016 Rules to show that.....that's what I meant.
     
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  6. Tomster

    Tomster Well-Known Member

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    Does the MSD count towards mandatory list turnover?
     
  7. JPK

    JPK Moderator Staff Member

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    Pretty sure we agreed that'd only be a post-season thing, so no.
     
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  8. bryzza

    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes:
     
  9. fresh

    fresh Well-Known Member

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    I don't quite remember and haven't bothered looking through past posts but I thought that we got rid of trading during drafts before last year's PSD. Can't remember the coaches involved but I remember that a trade of a first round pick for Vlastuin had to wait until after the PSD because the trading deadline was missed (the trade ended up as Gresham for Vlastuin). Either way I'm not fussed if we do or don't allow it.
     
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  10. YAD69

    YAD69 Moderator Staff Member

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    Correct.
     
  11. Tomster

    Tomster Well-Known Member

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    I do remember this one and thinking about how it was a huge hassle that I had to wait to get Gresham (I think I even told @wrightbrendan who to select with the pick)
     
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  12. Batfink

    Batfink Well-Known Member

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    Wow, I'm on the bottom of the ladder and get MSD Pick 9. o_O
     
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  13. wrightbrendan

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    Yup, we got the same outcome in the end. Just had to go the long way around
     
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    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    that hurts
     
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  15. YAD69

    YAD69 Moderator Staff Member

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    In a positive note, coaches are bringing their best game to the P/Dogs cause they know they are on the cusp.
     
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  16. Batfink

    Batfink Well-Known Member

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    I have been brining out the best in teams.
     
  17. insider

    insider Administrator Staff Member

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    Incorrect.

    Please see below from 'original rules' prior to them being created in a new thread for whatever reason.

    4. TRADES

    (a) Preseason Trade Period opens early November until the end of January of the next year. Trading is then open during preseason draft but closes at midnight on the day the preseason draft concludes.
    Read more at http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/fu-rules.82047/#o32uquGvcWROyEe5.99

    Granted it makes no reference to mid season draft, HOWEVER it clearly states that trading is open and available DURING preseason draft.
     
  18. eagle_eyed

    eagle_eyed Training the house down!

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    Can't be arsed looking for it but I thought we went through all of this last time when it was questioned. Surely if teams wish to trade and it does not hold up the draft it should not be an issue. I even recall trying to offload Milera for a pick so I could get Sam Fisher but no one was interested (I'm looking at you @JPK ;)); granted this was a pre-season draft but surely it should apply to any draft.
     
  19. martyg

    martyg Well-Known Member

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    I agree that we should be able to do private trades throughout the entire period. Should we have a rule that only players can be traded whilst the draft is occurring and not picks? Makes it easier for the board to manage. My 2 cents worth anyhow.
     
  20. insider

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    A good idea no doubt Marty, but my thinking has always been along the lines of US sports. Say you have pick 10 but at pick 8 I select a kid you really had your eye on. I believe it makes it quite exciting and adds a dimension if, obviously prior to you taking your pick or the time limit expiring, we agreed on a trade where I secure pick 10 and you get the player I selected at 8.

    Now this obviously hasn't occurred through our 6-odd drafts thus far, however as it IS in the rules I don't believe it should be suddenly restricted or disallowed on the very remote chance a 'live' trade happens.
     

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