Alright guys we have all been going over the new rookies, stats , the draw etc,time to take a quick break!!! What do people really think is going to happen in 2012!! Time to stare into the crystal ball!!! My Top 8 Hawks Carlton Collingwood Westcoast Eagles Geelong Fremantle Essendon (I dont care where, as long as were playing finals) Richmond Premiers (Hawks) Brownlow (Jobe Watson / Luke Hodge) Havent put Pendulbury as this is the first year i havent put $50 (2010 , 2011) on him at the start of the year!! Watson if he doesnt get injured and Hodge with pure numbers as Hawks to finish first Rising Star (Steve Colingio) Coleman Medal (Franklin) Mark of the Year (Nic Nat) If you havent seen it google nicnat dunk - incredible- Goal of the Year (Cyril Rioli) Coaches to get fired (None- Hardwick gets an extension by scrapping richmond into the eight at the expense of StKilda) What do the masses think??
cant see the blues improving much to get to 2nd, still have no good key forwards (walkers a small to mid sized, not key and waite... wasted talent) and their backline is looking iffy atm with injuries. top 3 could be interchangeable for me and then bottom 4 of the 8 is the same situation hawks pies cats west coast saints sydney fremantle essendon
FWMW Hawthorn Geelong Collingwood Carlton Fremantle Sydney West Coast North Melbourne/St Kilda... To fight out 8th...
Top 8 Cats Hawks Pies Weagles Freo Swans Blues Saints Voss to be sacked (should have happened 2011) Harvey in and Lions to be cash cow central. Duckwood for Brownlow
<blockquote>Quote from Lenh191 on March 6, 2012, 21:55 If st kilda finish below freo i will offer lyon a bj</blockquote> Big call !!!
Hawks Cats Pies Blues Saints Weagles Swans North Premiers - Hawks Rising Star - Tom Ledger Brownlow - Dal Santo Coleman - Buddy
Hawks Pies Cats Blues Eagles Freo Swans StKilda Browlow: Mitchell Coleman: Buddy Rising Star: Kane Lucas
Collingwood Hawthorn Carlton Geelong West Coast Sydney Nth.Melbourne Fremantle Premiers: Hawks Good thing about the 18 teams, top 8 now becomes more "selective". Wont see the full benefits until GCW and GWS ripen though. As for my top 8, the top 4 pick themselves, WC get 5th based on last season and the next 3 spots are the ones up for grabs. Other teams to compete for a spot in the 8 would be Essendon, Richmond, St.Kilda and even Bulldogs/Adelaide could challenge. No hope for the other 3 major teams, and the bookends will be obvious. Coleman: Franklin, 2013 - Reid (heard it hear first ) Brownlow: Pendlebury (ALF are playing catchup, if Swan can win it retrospectively...)
Loving this Hawks love. Will be all shattered after Round 1. I haven't quite assessed teams. I think Port will improve, North and Richmond should do better with a lovely soft draw, and Melbourne certainly should make the 8. Look at their run after the byes. With none of you putting Melbourne in your top 8, maybe I should throw a punt on the Ds North is the other side I think should make it, again not much faith from the masses on that score. They have 4 games vs GWS/GC, so there's 4 wins in the bank. I'd suggest 12-10 should do it, so they would need to be 8-10 from the rest of their matches. They have improved enough to suggest they will do that. Only one game against the top 3 from last year, and no double-up against Blues. Even Eagles they play twice so once away from Perth. Not sure about Jeckyll/Hyde teams like Adelaide, Bulldogs, Essendon, St Kilda, Richmond. Only to say that changing a coach can go very right and it can also go wrong (if it's Peter Rohde). Can't see a team from outside 2011 top 5 challenging for the flag, but at the moment I'd have these 5 teams all pretty well equal at the moment.
Top 8 Collingwood Hawthorn Carlton Geelong St. Kilda WCE Sydney Richmond (hopefully)/Adelaide Premier: Hawthorn Runner-up: Collingwood Brownlow: Marc Murphy Coleman: Travis Cloke
Collingwood Geelong West Coast Hawthorn Carlton North Melbourne Sydney Fremantle GF - WCE v Collingwood Premier - Collingwood Brownlow - Ablett Coleman - Buddy Rising Star - Buntine
My Top 8 Hawks Saints West Coast Geelong Carlton Collingwood Essendon Richmond Premiers (Saints) Brownlow Ablett Rising Star (Tom Ledger) Coleman Medal (Franklin) Mark of the Year (Goddard) Goal of the Year (Sippos) Coaches to get fired (Buckley - For impersonating a coach)
<blockquote>Quote from Lucas on March 7, 2012, 10:49 Loving this Hawks love. Will be all shattered after Round 1. I haven't quite assessed teams. I think Port will improve, North and Richmond should do better with a lovely soft draw, and Melbourne certainly should make the 8. Look at their run after the byes. With none of you putting Melbourne in your top 8, maybe I should throw a punt on the Ds North is the other side I think should make it, again not much faith from the masses on that score. They have 4 games vs GWS/GC, so there's 4 wins in the bank. I'd suggest 12-10 should do it, so they would need to be 8-10 from the rest of their matches. They have improved enough to suggest they will do that. Only one game against the top 3 from last year, and no double-up against Blues. Even Eagles they play twice so once away from Perth. Not sure about Jeckyll/Hyde teams like Adelaide, Bulldogs, Essendon, St Kilda, Richmond. Only to say that changing a coach can go very right and it can also go wrong (if it's Peter Rohde). Can't see a team from outside 2011 top 5 challenging for the flag, but at the moment I'd have these 5 teams all pretty well equal at the moment.</blockquote> I think Collingwood are the favourites, deservedly so and really if they don't win it again this year it will be a colossal failure. I just put down Hawks because of the fan in me and I genuinely believe this is the best team we have had since '08. Really, we're only a kick away from a GF and just have to get the measure of at least 1 of the 2 bogey teams from last year.
Geelong Hawthorn Collingwood Carlton West Coast St Kilda Fremantle Sydney GF - Geel/Haw Premiers - Cats Brownlow - Murphy Coleman - Buddy
Hawks Geelong Collingwood (Premier) West Coast Carlton North Melbourne Sydney Eighth?(Fremantle, Richmond) Tenth?(St. Kilda, Essendon, Melbourne, Adelaide) Brownlow Medal:Buddy Franklin! or Pendlebury Coleman: Franklin Coaches to get fired (None.. Though Hird, Voss and Ratten to all be under pressure from under performing teams but all will be saved because of their playing links at clubs, Ratten most likely to be sacked after being knocked straight out of the finals)
Geelong Collingwood Carlton Hawthorn West Coast Sydney St Kilda Melbourne\orth Melbourne Richmond The other Melbourne team from above Premier: Any of the top 4 Brownlow: Jobe Watson Coleman: Buddy Realistically though I think if the teams can improve a little, maintain their form or bounce back from a bad year respectively then I'd say any teams outside the top five this year apart from GWS and GC are a chance of making the other three spots in the 8 this year. Even port could sneak in if last year really was the one-off shocker it seemed, but it is still quite unlikely. They'd also need a massive logjam below fifth but could well get it
Collingwood to beat Hawthorn,geelong and WCE top four, then carlton-sydney-freo then melb or adelaide due to their soft draws / buddy for coleman/ablett for charlie/ kobe stevens for rising star and jeremy howe for mark of the year!