Bye by Bye

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  1. BrockyFreo

    BrockyFreo Member

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    Hi Guys,

    Thought you might find it interesting to see the teams taking a bye week by week.

    Round 1 Gold Coast

    Round 2 Adelaide

    Round 3 North Melbourne

    Round 4 St. Kilda, Brisbane, Bulldogs

    Round 5 Melbourne, Sydney, West Coast

    Round 6 Fremantle, Geelong, Hawthorn

    Round 7 Collingwood

    Round 8 Carlton

    Round 9 Gold Coast

    Round 10 Essendon

    Round 11 Richmond

    Round 12 Port Adelaide

    Round 13 Collingwood

    Round 14 St. Kilda

    Round 15 West Coast

    Round 16 Adelaide, Fremantle, Melbourne

    Round 17 Hawthorn

    Round 18 Port Adelaide

    Round 19 Brisbane, Sydney, Richmond

    Round 20 Bulldogs

    Round 21 North Melbourne

    Round 22 Geelong

    Round 23 Carlton

    Round 24 Essendon


    So now, This should be considered when choosing your team.

    What are your thoughts on strategy?
     
  2. gduff1973

    gduff1973 New Member

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    Take one premium from each team and make sure they dont effect each other when their are multiple byes. Ie dont put a geelong and hawthorn person on the same line. Thats a stratagy I might look at or not lol.....
     
  3. stkildathunda

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    Cheers for that, makes things much easier...

    Im really considering getting some cheap Richmond, Essendon ,Port players and using them as cover for first half of the season and upgrade them at their first lot of byes in round 10,11 & 12. By that time they should have grown nicely. Gold Coast would have had both their byes already and will know how Gazza, Bock & Co are looking...
     
  4. Lucas

    Lucas Moderator Staff Member

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    Thunda

    It may put a player such as Foley back into consideration even though it breaks all GNR conventions.

    But here's the thinking, you get him, he chips his score up until R10 then it's a hop skip jump to Ablett jr, rather than a possible 3 trade upgrade.

    The key question is whether he or another rookie even your M9 presents more of a chance to increase by the required $ amount.

    I think if you pick the right cheaper style players from these teams, upgrade bang on the right time, you could start stronger in points than the full GNR players, and finish just as strong.

    That's the issue though - finding 'the right ones'
     
  5. stkildathunda

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    Bloody hell, just wrote an awesome (haha) reply and accidently closed the window before posting it....

    Anyway basically was saying thats my thinking Lucas. Puts Foley, Houli & maybe Zaharakis back onto my watch list. With the right rookies and if 1 cash cow can generate enough cash I should be able to one trade a few of them to the Ablett, Swan, Montagna after round 10 and 13/14 as Collingwood & StKilda both have their 2nd byes then and no more interuptions for the season. Barring injuries you should be able to work your team without losing out on points and not having to worry about losing your mind working out MPP coverage.

    Never reliased Houli is priced at an 60 average, nice and cheap considering his career average is 80!!!
     
  6. BrockyFreo

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    I see an issue with wanting Freo Mzungu and Pitt and Hawthorn I Smith as rookies. makes it tough to fit pavo and chapman in there as well as they all have a bye on round 6!

    Even if you put a player like Goodes or Brent Harvey in the centre to swap them out, you still waste that centre spot with a dual player.

    I think Chapman or Pav are gonna have to miss out on my team, Shame, isn't it? Anyone got any ideas?
     
  7. BrockyFreo

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    Oh! And Franklin too! That's three premium players, chapo Pavo and franko all bye the same round.

    Might have to plan to upgrade to these players after round 6 i guess
     
  8. guesswork

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    Sorry guys. I'm a newbie. Just a thought, if you had Krakoeur in MID and Mzungu FWD, couldn't you swap their positions for R6 for some cover fwd?
     
  9. FunkSoulBrother

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    I think you have to virtually run simulations with your team and see who you would sub in and out each week for the first 6 rounds.

    Make some assumptions re scores (ie: hope for the very best with your bench players and see how they can cover in and out for those with byes)

    And planning trades is going to be critical. I think you have to target your premiums to load them in in certain rounds and have a mix of undervalued and good rookies to trade out at those times.

    I think that this year you really want to be sure your bench players will see game time in the first 6 weeks especially.

    I think Richmond and Essendon undervalueds will be important because you can target when you want to get them out and who you want to come in based on the timing of their byes.

    You wont be too worried if you can be upgrading a undervalued tiger at round 11 lets say to to a Premium Bulldogs Mid to see you through. (Assuming a decent prise rise) (But picking out the gems from that midrange is like finding needles in a haystack)

    Also, you have to consider how many potential point you are leaving behind my selecting a fewer number of premiums to start with.

    Ouch! Is that my head exploding a little bit!!

    Its gonna be really hard and I would think there will be a lot of luck involved. Becasue its gonna be extremely difficult to take all your premium keepers you would normally take from the start of the season. Due to the fact that you may have too many out on the big bye weekends.

    The shitty part about all this is that all this thought and effort is just for this year and wont be needed again.

    BTW thats a good thing. I think the BYES suck!!

     
  10. BrockyFreo

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    How will the majority of people go? Will they go for a nice average to start with? or will they go for money in the bank to start with?

    I see money in the bank as a good thing, allows an upgrade or two in the first few weeks without trading down.

    However I also really like the idea of starting with two extra premiums, then trading down to 2 GC rookies after week 3 before they change price; thus putting money back in your bank and getting in before they go up in value the first time! (also allows you to pick the RIGHT GC players who will go up in value the most).

    Interesting thought that isn't it..
     
  11. FunkSoulBrother

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    <blockquote>Quote from BrockyFreo on February 16, 2011, 22:58

    However I also really like the idea of starting with two extra premiums, then trading down to 2 GC rookies after week 3 before they change price; thus putting money back in your bank and getting in before they go up in value the first time! (also allows you to pick the RIGHT GC players who will go up in value the most).

    Interesting thought that isn't it..</blockquote>

    An interesting idea indeed and one that I also keep coming back to.

    Maybe we need to utilise trades a bit heavier in the first few rounds up to round 6 then back right off til later in the year. Targeting selected premiums at predetermined rounds to offset the byes
     
  12. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    not a bad idea at first thought. its also one that can be left to the last minute. make a call at R3 just before their prices are rising.

    that has always been my thoughts on the GC rookies, but i hadnt considered dropping premiums down to them lol.

    i suppose it will all depend on how ones current players are performing at the beginning of the season.
     
  13. Lucas

    Lucas Moderator Staff Member

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    Can you really start with two extra premiums?

    If you start with the prems in the middle and trade out then you will be left with money, the right rookies, but you will be out of kilter on tempo and cash (read points) on the ground for the next week.

    Can see limited application, and as it's fiddly and prone to trigger happy r3 decisions (a Muston/Gysberts decision here), I would prefer not to go down that path.
     
  14. J_in_Japan

    J_in_Japan New Member

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    I agree, Muston/Gysbert were killers and not to be considered again.
     

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