Consolidation Of List Changes

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  1. JPK

    JPK Moderator Staff Member

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    Alrighty then, after all the polls and all the discussion, we decided that the EU wasn't for us.
    Wait, that's not right.
    Alrighty then, after all the polls and all the discussion, we decided that we don't like either Malcolm Turnbull or Bill Shorten, so we're going to have Eddie McGuire run the country, with Clive Palmer as his magoo.
    Wait, hang on, that's not right either.

    Seriously now, after all the polls, and all the discussion, and all my random silliness, we decided on the following changes to list sizes and management for the future:

    • For the start of the 2017 season, all team list sizes will be increased from 26 to 28 players.
    • A mini-draft after the 2017 PSD will be used to increase list sizes.
    • Mandatory list reductions will be introduced, so that all coaches have a minimum number of picks in the PSD's.
    • The minimum number of PSD picks will be four (4), meaning that no team can have more than 24 players on their list prior to the PSD commencing (relevant for 2018 onwards).
    • Trading, delisting, and retirements from AFL clubs are all included in the pre-PSD list reduction, its only important the minimum number of picks.

    Looking at the poll results, is there anyone who does not come to this same conclusion?
    http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/poll-list-sizes-2017-and-beyond.89551/#eMMaO489yOQ5qW89.97
    http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/poll-2017-psd-arrangement.89553/#WpDclt6ARTVqesg6.97
    http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/poll-list-management.89527/#lJfTgv4bhmMrtxPh.97
    http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/poll-psd-pick-quantity-2018-onwards.89552/#A6Ry5rTTMSoZYpYd.97

    The 2017 post-PSD minidraft order needs to be decided - I would advocate using the same order as the PSD, simply because all of this is designed to give the lower ranked teams a "helping hand", to create evenness and competitiveness in the league. The alternates appear to be consecutive picks for each team based on PSD order (18th placed team gets picks 1 and 2, 17th placed team gets picks 3 and 4, etc), which will further boost the lower ranks teams' ability and opportunities, or a completely random draft order, which is fair for the league, but probably won't go anywhere in helping the lower ranked teams.

    What is everyone's thoughts on the minidraft order?
    Is there anything else that you'd like to see added / removed / changed?

    Edit: Minidraft order is as per the PSD. Picks will be adjoining.
     
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  2. bryzza

    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    im all for sandgropers idea which jpk has quoted ......... two consecutive picks ie 18th team gets 1 and 2 and so on ...
     
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  3. insider

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    great job spearheading and consolidating all this @JPK
     
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  4. eagle_eyed

    eagle_eyed Training the house down!

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    I like the consecutive picks for the mini draft. Can I just clarify the 2017 draft; do we have a minimum number of picks? Or is this starting in 2018? I'm all for it to start next year.
     
  5. JPK

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    Initially it was that the 2017 draft would be as we've always done, and then introduce the minidraft afterwards. This is due to the fact that people have traded draft picks thinking they've got a certain value, so it'd kinda unfair to "change" the the value of each pick.
     
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  6. Mick

    Mick Well-Known Member

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    All looks good. I vote for consecutive picks in the mini draft too. Nice work @JPK
     
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  7. Tomster

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    Don't mind re mini draft picks, but should be in PSD order not random. Will mini draft picks be tradeable? Great work JPK
     
  8. fresh

    fresh Well-Known Member

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    Summed up nicely JPK, good work on getting all the polls up and sorting this out.

    I'll withhold my opinion on how the picks in the mindraft should flow due to the way my season has unfolded and me being likely to be impacted most.
     
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  9. JPK

    JPK Moderator Staff Member

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    Mate, opinions are like ar5eholes...
    Wait, no.... Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether they're the most or least effected by the outcome. However, you're also not obliged to say anything (but don't feel that you have to keep your mouth shut either).
     
  10. YAD69

    YAD69 Moderator Staff Member

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    Mini draft should be in a new random order as it is an increase for all.
     
  11. HOLKY

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    Mini-Draft should be PSD order, e.g. if I finish 8th I get 11 and 29.
     
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    Mini draft should be PSD order
     
  13. bryzza

    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    @JPK another poll is needed .
    Back to back picks or standard order

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  14. JPK

    JPK Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah, I was thinking that too... was trying to avoid it, but we'll have one - two actually: the order, and if we should be able to trade these picks

    Hopefully everyone can head over and vote in these two new polls, please
     
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    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    How would trading those picks work ? If they were traded how does a team increase squad size to 28 ?

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  16. JPK

    JPK Moderator Staff Member

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    That's a good question - clearly I need to put more thought into this....
     
  17. bryzza

    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't even poll it. I think only one coach asked and there has been no debate

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  18. JPK

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    Further consolidation from the questions that arose - mini-draft picks ARE NOT trade-able, and the order will be based on the PSD, with teams having ADJOINING picks.
     
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