Vote: Draft options for Foul Bay and Whitsunday players

Hi everyone,

With the adjustment of the association down to 16 teams, we have 56 players being released into the available player pool. How we handle the take up of those players is still yet to be decided.

One option is to just add them to the player pool like any other player. The other option is to have a dispersal draft, where for the first round, each franchise gets to pick a player from one of those two clubs, and then the rest of the player pool (including new draftees) gets added into the draft from Round 2 onwards.
Please vote here on your preference, unless anyone tells me otherwise, I am going to go a first past the post on this one... so 9 votes gets the option over the line.

Please let me know with a thumbs up when you have voted, saves me having to chase people

Birdsville Battlers @JC - Voted
Charlie's Opening Spelunkers @Bandit - Voted
Cradle Mountain Devils @dmandrews - Voted
Dunsborough Dung Beetles @CursingFijian - Voted
Gariwerd Cockatoos @anthak - Voted
Gundagai Grasshoppers @snoz - Voted
Iron Knob Codpieces @churchboy - Voted
Larrikin Lagoon Lefties @That KI Guy - Voted
Lovely Banks Lilacs @Jen - Voted
Marble Bar Misfits @Len - Voted
Mt Beauty Uglies @bama
Nareewillock Nuffers @chris88 - Voted
Venus Bay Vultures @Fitzy
Wagga Wagga Wombats @Lenny120
Waikikamoocow Incorrigibles @graeme - Voted
Wineglass Bay Packers @Tracey - Voted

 

Voted for option 2, the release of a small number of highly effective players into the pointy end of the draft is, imo, more than enough of an "equalisation" legup.

 

This is why we are having a vote folks... TBH, I forgot I have Mike's first round lol

 

Have turned on the ability for people to change their vote if needed

 

When trading a top 5 pick at MSD time you have no real knowledge of which draftee you will be able to target, you might need a Harley Ried, you might need a different role filled. This is no different, only that there will be a group of players with experience and thus can be targeted with some confidence in output, but the top 6 picks do tend to change throughout each year, anyone trading a pick 1 o 5 knows they are trading out a potential future star, regardless of age.
I get it's a discussion point, but don't see it as a difference of significance, and the bottom teams who held their picks are better placed than most to adviance up the ladder. I can't see that as anything other than a positive.
Could they advance more if their were 2 drafts? Probably, but trading effects list progression far more than drafting.
Personally I'm not fussed wither way, other than seeing two drafts as an artificial construct that will only complicate a process that I prefer to keep elegantly simple and "pure".

 

I completely agree, DMA. I had been thinking this too.

I can’t see how it’s fair to include them in the player pool. It completely alters the format of the draft and the value of picks for this one year only.

I also think just one round for the dispersal draft isn’t enough. I think the ideal would be 2 rounds snake draft just for players from the two disbanded teams. And then have our actual PSD like normal afterwards.

With both teams starting 15 on-field players and having depth players, there will be 32 players to share around in the dispersal draft.

That way DDB would get picks 1 & 32, and GGH would get 16 & 17, for instance. LLL would get picks 5 & 28.

 

I think there have been ten (10) 2024 PSD draft picks traded all up, including three first-rounders, and a high second-rounder.

 

There’s no way I would’ve traded PSD pick 20 for Jamaine Jones if I’d known the Chooks and Warriors players would be available around that pick.

 

I have posted the below link so that the FA coaches can review the 55 listed players from WSW and FBC in one combined list sorted by their 2023 average (the lowest 6 by average being on page 2 due to the double up of the retiring John Ceglar).

http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.p...gueTeamId=20,22&sort=ave&desc=desc&page_num=1

 

Thanks TTH. There are easily 32 draftable players in that list.

It was @That KI Guy who suggested a 2-round dispersal draft in the other thread, and I agreed with him at the time.
I think it’s much fairer to get these players out of the way before we commence our real draft.

Snake order is the best way for a dispersal draft imo, for obvious reasons.

 

But you took a punt that Jamaine Jones would turn out to be a stud.... he didn't. If he did, you wouldn't be sitting here regretting trading pick 20.

Hindsight is 20/20, we all have a vote in this, I encourage people to vote how they see fit, this is EXACTLY why I put this to a vote.

The conversation is good, but it would be great if people could make a decision based on what suits them best... in the next few days

 

I tend to agree that the vote is about self interest.
Ideally should we perhaps be looking for a solution which fairly distributes the spoils of the two franchises?
Maybe just a random lottery?

 

I wondered the same thing.
I’m personally not voting on self interest. I think a dispersal draft is what’s best and fairest for the competition.
I was thinking to suggest a random lottery based on the way the NBA does it, where the bottom teams have more chance for a high pick, but everyone is a chance.

 

I disagree about this. It’s not hindsight, it’s because the goal posts have shifted.
JJ is still the same player I traded for. At the time he was injured and unlikely to play again this season. I still have high hopes for him, and I would do the trade again in a usual draft. At the time of the trade i had no reason to believe it wouldn’t be a usual draft pool. But now with 50 or so players added to the pool, some of which are 1st round quality, the pick is soooo much more valuable.

 

Our good friend @choppers messaged me with an idea for something we can consider instead of adding all players to the pool if we don’t decide on a dispersal draft.

Here are his words:

The poll is currently leaning the way of the dispersal draft, but if it swings the other way, I think Choppers’ idea is a good one.