TooSerious

As mentioned in the forward on the main page, this will be the 4th season of our TS fantasy NBA leagues in a row. The first season saw us have one league of 20 teams, before we moved to a promotion and relegation system across 3 leagues of 12 for the past 2 seasons.

In the top flight over the three seasons, Dabombers won season 1, Jasmine won season 2, & Ruddy won season 3.


There's still a bit of time to go before the season, but we have a few things to sort out between now and then, so we thought it best to get stuck into it now. Steve will be doing the most of the organising/admin/writeups etc through the season, but he's got a fair bit on his plate at the moment, so I'm helping out for the rest of this month.


The main things I see that we need to sort out and agree on, in order, are:
1. Participants;
2. Scoring system adjustments;
3. Length of season;
4. Draft dates;
5.Promotion/Relegation system changes;
6. There must be something else that I cant think of right now.


The season starts on October 29th US time, which is the morning of the 30th for us, so we have about 10 weeks to get sorted, which is good.

Last year, we had the drafts very close to opening night, whereas in the previous 2 seasons, we had them before daylight savings kicked in in Victoria. I'm not sure how we will go this year, but either way, it would be good to get points 1, 2 and 3 out of the way so that we can start researching in preparation for the draft.


The promotion/relegation system we had in place last year was as follows:
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Promotion:
The 4 going up from Div 2 to Div 1 will be the two grand final teams, and (excluding the two GF teams) the team with the best 'points for' and (excluding said Points For winner) the best ranked team at end of our regular season.
The 2 teams going up from Div 1 to Premier will be the GF winning team, and the team with the best Reg season...

<p style='font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: 18px;]Seems I've gotten in late after a day at the snowfields to find that it's round 4 in my NFL draft.
<p style='font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: 18px;]Review will be late.
<p style='font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: 18px;]Stats are up though!
<p style='font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: 18px;]Enjoy! Hope you've had a great weekend though!
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Si&amp;eacute;ntase libre de pasar con cualquier comentario, usted no tiene que hablar mexicano embargo.



Oh, &amp;iquest;y qui&amp;eacute;n m&amp;aacute;s se enteraron de que Roos a Brisbane fue un hecho?

Fantasy Premier League - http://fantasy.premierleague.com



All leagues in FPL from last year have been recreated!


Classic Way TooSerious - 53209-64572

TooSerious Classic - 53209-64570

TSEXtra (Classic) - 53209-64571




TooSerious.net Head To Head League - 53209-91880 - Max 38 teams (I think is full now)



Sportal Premier League - http://epldreamteam.sportal.com.au

I've set up a league, if you create one or if you notice they are full please let us know and we'll add them to main post.

TooSerious.net - FULL

Way Too Serious - League Code = 784948 (only 11 spots left)






Also I have few spots left in my own league if anyones interested - 872234

<p style='line-height: 18px; font-variant: normal; font-style: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;]The Best Buys is back once again to help you with those all-important trade decisions for the SC finals, and from here on out will have more focus on POD's. We've dropped the waiting list section, as there isn't much use looking at the players who will be cheap/good in a few weeks, but included some lesser selected players in good form right now.
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<p style='line-height: 18px; font-variant: normal; font-style: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;]The Best Buy of the week is young Giant, Callan Ward. A massive 3-game average and a cheap price with small selection numbers make Ward the perfect finals smoky, and for many coaches out there that ticks all the boxes. With Brisbane, Richmond and then the Suns rounding out the season for the Giants Ward should have every opportunity to go large, and could well be the difference come the grand final. On a side note we were going to go with 'Onward and Upward' for the title this week, but there are some connotations there that just didn't quite work.
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DEFENSE

MID-PRICERS


Pearce Hanley (BRI) DEF 488k 100

Pearce is still in solid form, after returning early from injury he brought a good score with him but was a little down this last weekend. Priced at under 490 grand and averaging 100 for the season he is in around 65,000 teams to date and is a solid defensive option.



Harry Taylor (GEE) DEF 465.2k 96

Harry Taylor...

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MCG, Friday August 16, 7.50pm AEST
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In: L.Hodge, G.Birchall, L.Franklin<br style='margin: 0px; padding: 0px;[/img]
Out: J.Simpkin, M.Spangher, S.Grimley
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In: -<br style='margin: 0px; padding: 0px;[/img]
Out: -
<p style='margin-bottom: 15px; color: #474747; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: 22px;]Richmond v Carlton<br style='margin: 0px; padding: 0px;[/img]
MCG, Saturday August 17, 1.45pm AEST
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In: R.Petterd, D.Grimes<br style='margin: 0px; padding: 0px;[/img]
Out: C.Newman (ankle), R.Nahas
<p style='margin-bottom: 15px; color: #474747; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: 22px;]CARLTON<br style='margin: 0px; padding: 0px;[/img]
In: L.Casboult, M.Robinson, A.McInnes, T.Bell, N.Graham<br style='margin: 0px; padding: 0px;[/img]
Out: C.Judd (knee), S.Rowe, J.Garlett (glute), J.Cachia, M.Watson (foot)
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Rockliff v. Greater Western Sydney



Rd 8 2012: 146 SC points, 36 disposals



Note: Only one game against the Giants. He also kicked three goals and 4 behinds in the game. He is coming off scores of 126, 166, 111, 128 and 147 (average of 136 from five games) after only averaging 96 in the first thirteen games of the season. (Daniel Merrett kicked 7 goals in the matchup last year and finished with a game high 177 SC points whilst Jonathan Brown kicked 5 goals and scored 154).



Ablett v. Port Adelaide



Rd 4 2013: 131 SC points, 35 disposals

Rd 9 2012: 111 SC points, 25 disposals

Rd 5 2011: 109 SC points, 26 disposals

Rd 4 2010: 145 SC points, 37 disposals

Rd 13 2009: 206 SC points, 36 disposals

Rd 12 2008: 161 SC points, 32 disposals

Rd 1 2008: 127 SC points, 24 disposals

GF 2007: 108 SC points, 19 disposals

Rd 21 2007: 104 SC points, 27 disposals

Rd 9 2007: 112 SC points, 25 disposals



Average is 131 SC points with 29 disposals.



Note: Fantastic record against Port Adelaide - when he was playing with Geelong (average of 138). Has only scored 109, 111 and 131 against them since his move to Gold Coast. His score in Round 4 this year was a little disappointing given that he picked up 15 touches and 55 SC points in the first quarter. He is normally tagged by Cornes but has also been tagged by Thomas or Sujan/Cassisi (in his huge game of 206). He is in poor form at the moment with scores of 67, 100 and 116 (average of 94).



Watson v. North Melbourne



Rd 20 2012: 154 SC points, 32 disposals

Rd 1 2012: 107 SC points, 28 disposals

Rd 13 2011: 94 SC points, 29 disposals

Rd 17 2010: 139 SC points, 38 disposals

Rd 4 2009: 91 SC points, 24 disposals

Rd 1 2008: 148 SC points, 30 disposals

Rd 7 2007: 112 SC points, 32 disposals

Rd 13 2006: 92 SC points, 24 disposals



Average is 117 SC points with 30 disposals.



Note: Not the...

Here is the final ORFFA 2013 ladder:


The Ladder:

Iron Knob 60 23688

Waikikamoocow 56 21648

Foul Bay 52 22754

Charlies Opening 48 22006

Birdsville 44 20955

Powlett Plains 44 20657

Darraweit Guim 40 20637

Wagga Wagga 38 21022

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Gariwerd 38 20672

Venus Bay 38 20127

Mt Beauty 36 19965

Cradle Mountain 28 19780

Whitsundays 24 19300

Nunawading 20 18417

Lovely Banks 14 19360

Larrikin Lagoon 12 19820

Marble Bar 12 19304

Gundagai 8 16524


Now, onto the fixture and preview, written by Bandit (with approval of chris88):


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<div>Well the ORFFA FIXture leader Ant has received the submissions from the Top 4 teams, and the first round of finals matchups has been decided. There was a raft of bidding for the television rights form a lot of networks, however in a small surprise, the free-to-air rights were won by Imparja Television, a national, indigenous television service produced in Sydney and broadcast via Imparja Television's existing satellite capacity. For the PayTV component of the deal, Imparja partnered with SelecTV. SelecTV is available throughout Australia via satellite and focuses on providing content in comparatively low priced packages to a number of specialised market segments; including Spanish, Greek, and Italian. It is anticipated that being able to stream AFL in other languages may yield some exciting European style commentary. One hopes that a player can begin a scintillating run from the half back line, take 4-5 bounces and slot one from 50 with the commentator going off his nut and finishing with a long drawn out guttural GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL to bring the house down for those armchair surfers not getting out to the matches.
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<div>Onto the fixtures themselves.
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<div>Iron Knob v Powlett Plains : Friday 16 August 8:00pm AEST ...

It's the middle of August and so ends another ORFFL regular season. It got a bit heated in the last week as we began to have that difficult conversation that every professional fantasy keeper league must have at some point in time. The talk of tanking.



The season is over for the majority of teams in the ORFFL, so now seems as good a time as any to have that discussion about what if any is to be done about this spectre. And I'll try and use far more moderate language and temperament than I have in the past couple of weeks.



The facts are that the drafts we have are an equalisation method; the worse your team is, the better picks you get. In theory if your team is poor, you'll have the opportunity to draft better players so your team isn't so bad in the future (relative to every other team).



This system of course is open to teams deliberately trying to lose in order to get better picks. See any sport with such a last to first draft, fantasy is no different. The issue with this is that if half the teams are trying to lose to finish further down the ladder and half the teams trying to do the opposite it can be argued that it's not a true competition as not everyone's trying to win (although theoretically if you kept drafting good players your team would get better, making it harder to keep losing, perhaps somewhat besides the point).



As to how best to stop it, I'm all for ideas. My 3 main ones are:



a) shame. Calling out teams that tank and punishing them with ego-deflating peer pressure and a loss of draft picks if caught.



Although this is pretty much what we have now and no one likes fingering other coaches, err, so to speak.



b) Some kind of lottery system so teams are not guaranteed P1 if they finish last and etc.



You can obviously still tank under this system, the result is less certain.



c) Accept that it's a part of any competition with a last to first draft and agree to not be really blatant about...

<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]2013 Masters Series Draw
<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]There were 128 teams entered in 2013. Thetop32 teams after round 10 gained seedings (see green and orange highlighting) and everyone else was drawn randomly for their first round matches (Round 14).Seeded teams (top 3100 overall after round 10) didn't play another seed until the 3rd round (if the seeds had won through).Unseeded teams (outside top 3100 overall after round 10) were drawn to face a seed in the first or second round (Rounds 14/15) with a1 in 3 chance of this being in the first round.
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<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]Results for Rounds 14-16 are now final and can be viewed at:- http://tooserious.net/Blog/tabid/90/EntryId/1805/TS-Masters-Series-Rd17.aspx
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<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]Results - Round 17-19 - see below - NOW FINAL !!
<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]TYLO prevails over Tyze1 in the GF - well done to you both.
<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]That's it for this year. Hopefully the comp is back again in 2014.
<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]If so feel free to add thoughts on whether the 2013 comp can be tweaked.
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<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]I was thinking either do the same as this year, OR
<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]- perhaps get it kicked off from Round 2 or 3 with 3 weeks off for the Rd8-10 Mb's, and the Grand Final in around round 13/14, whichmeans a maxmium number of entrants of perhaps 256/512 teams up from 128 this year but would mean no seeding would apply
<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]- we continue the need for people to 'nominate' their team as per this year so that we have a link
<p style='margin: 0cm 0cm 13.5pt;]between names and teams which helps for write up and...