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Round 2 of the NAB cup is here, and with team lists being cut, let's check out which chaff has beenseparatedfrom the wheat.



NAB CUP ROUND TWO: Etihad Stadium (Friday, March 1)

Western Bulldogs v Hawthorn (7.40pm EDT)
HAWTHORN

2. Jarryd Roughead, 3. Jordan Lewis, 4. Matthew Suckling, 5. Sam Mitchell, 6. Josh Gibson, 10. Bradley Hill, 13. Kyle Cheney, 16. Isaac Smith, 18. Brent Guerra, 19. Jack Gunston, 20. David Hale, 21. Shane Savage, 22. Luke Breust, 23. Lance Franklin, 24. Ben Stratton, 25. Ryan Schoenmakers, 27. Matt Spangher, 29. Will Langford (emergency), 32. Jonathan Simpkin, 35. Sam Grimley, 37. Jed Anderson, 38. Mitch Hallahan (emergency), 41. Taylor Duryea, 43. Amos Frank, 46. Derick Wanganeen, 47. Jonathon Ceglar (emergency)
WESTERN BULLDOGS

2. Robert Murphy, 3. Mitch Wallis, 4. Daniel Cross, 5. Matthew Boyd, 6. Luke Dahlhaus, 9. Jake Stringer, 10. Easton Wood, 11. Jack Macrae, 13. Daniel Giansiracusa, 14. Clay Smith, 15. Jason Tutt, 16. Ryan Griffen, 19. Liam Jones, 21. Tom Liberatore, 23. Jordan Roughead, 27. Will Minson, 29. Tory Dickson, 31. Tom Young, 33. Nick Lower, 37. Lukas Markovic, 38. Dale Morris, 39. Jason Johannisen, 42. Liam Picken, 44. Brett Goodes, 45. Tom Campbell, 49. Ayce Cordy
NAB CUP ROUND TWO: Simonds Stadium (Saturday, March 2)

Geelong v Adelaide (2.40pm EDT)
GEELONG

1. Mitch Brown, 2. Billie Smedts, 3. Jimmy Bartel, 4. Andrew Mackie, 5. Travis Varcoe, 7. Harry Taylor, 9. James Kelly, 11. Joel Corey, 19. Taylor Hunt, 20. Steve Johnson, 21. Jordan Murdoch, 22. Mitch Duncan, 23. Josh Caddy, 25. Jared Rivers, 29. Cameron Guthrie , 31. James Podsiadly, 32. Steven Motlop, 33. George Horlin-Smith, 34. Josh Walker, 35.Paul Chapman, 37. Cam Eardley, 39. Shane Kersten, 40. Jackson Thurlow, 41. Jesse Stringer, 44. Corey Enright,45. Joel Hamling, 46. Mark Blicavs
ADELAIDE

2. Brad Crouch, 3. Brent Reilly, 4. Josh Jenkins, 5. Scott Thompson, 7. Nathan van Berlo,...

Finding value for your dollar is one of the biggest part of fantasy football. As we know, snagging that mid-pricer that takes off, or that rookie that is going to play out of his skin and deliver you both points and profit are the keystones to any good team.

One way to track this value is through the NAB cup. Yes, teams do play their kids more through the NAB cup, but to view which kids take their chances when they are given, and which don't can really help in selecting your team.
<strong style='font-size: 14px;]Rookies, Dollars per point[/b]






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Team
Position
Name
Salary
$PerPoint




MEL
MID
Dean Kent
$102,700
1316




COL
MID
Kyle Martin
$103,300
1434




PTA
F/M
Jake Neade
$108,500
1550




NTH
RUC
Daniel Currie
$102,700
1604




SYD
MID
Harry Cunningham
$102,700
1770




CAR
F/R
Sam Rowe
$108,500
1808




ESS
DEF
Luke Davis
$108,500
1870




GWS
DEF
Gerald Ugle
$137,000
1902




NTH
RUC
Majak Daw
$108,500
1903




WBD
D/M...

<p style='font: inherit;]They aren't everyone's cup of tea, but for some they are.
<p style='font: inherit;]And me, I've been tweaking my team daily since this darn NAB things started, so if you're doing the same, perhaps you wanted to discuss said tweaks?
<p style='font: inherit;]Here's the place.


As always, I'll get it started. Someone, RMT!



Defenders: Goddard, Gibbs, Grimes, Pearce, Pittard, <a href="http://tooserious.net/Player.aspx?id=2073&name= Sam Docherty">Docherty[/url] (VanUnen, <a href="http://tooserious.net/Player.aspx?id=537&name= Dean Terlich">Terlich[/url] )

Midfielders: Swan, Deledio, Cotchin, Jack, Selwood, PARKER, Crouch, O'Meara (Banner, <a href="http://tooserious.net/Player.aspx?id=2305&name= Jack Viney">Viney[/url] )

Rucks: <a href="http://tooserious.net/Player.aspx?id=472&name= Todd Goldstein">Goldstein[/url],...

With Concussions set to become more closely scrutinised, I'm thinking it might be a good idea to run an eye over the database to check out which (near) premiums in the past have missed games through concussion.



Sadly, I don't have the figures on players who got concussed, but made it back the next week- just the big ones that misses a match.



Tippett 3, all in 2012



CHRISTENSEN 2, in 2011, 2012

Dempster 2, all in 2011

McPharlin 2, in 2011, 2012

Riewoldt 2 in 2009, 2011

Selwood 2, in 2011, 2012

Taylor 2, in 2009, 2011



Adams 1 in 2010

Boak 1 in 2011

Bolton 1 in 2010

Breust 1 in 2012

Fisher 1 in 2010

FYFE 1 in 2010

Goddard 1 in 2011

Hale 1 in 2009

Lewis 1 in 2010

Johnson 1 in 2012...

Todays guest post comes from Liam Quinn at BackPageLead.com.au

The term superstar gets bandied around far too often in the AFL.

String together a few 30 plus possession games - superstar. Turn in one spectacular season - elite. The undue haste in which the footballing public, and media, spring forward to crown a very good player a 'great', and to begin preparations for their pending Hall of Fame induction, can be grating indeed.

Having said all that, I've set about the task of sorting the wheat from the chaff and identifying those players who do make the top-tier cut. There are literally dozens of very, very good players that the case could be made for, so a strict set of criteria was needed.

For those playing along at home, a premiership doesn't make a player elite, although it can certainly help - considering the circumstances. Neither does playing in excess of 250 games; that's a sign of incredible durability and longevity, not greatness - however, greatness isn't earned in a season or two, so players need a few notches under their belt.

In a similar fashion, Brownlow medals aren't a sure indicator of greatness, with a raft of other factors - teammate quality, one-hit wonder seasons - playing a role in who walks away Charlie each year. Further, the line had to be established between club greats and great players. No one would argue that Dustin Fletcher, Brent Harvey and Lenny Hayes aren't champion players for their respective clubs, but whether any of the aforementioned trio ever crossed over into elite territory is very much up for debate.

And, finally, for any player to be considered a superstar they must be untouchable to their club, in terms of trade value. To clarify, that means that their straight swap could tempt another club into parting with their superstar, unless it was another one of these elite players.

After meticulously poring over the candidates, and consulting with many a...

Before continuing on with
the 3rd and 4th month performances of the [span style='font-weight: bold;]W2SP Club,
let's recap where the club stood after the first 2 months of operations.
Month 1 (Sep/Oct 2012)
saw our punting record show we had [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]staked [span style='font-weight: bold;]$453.63 for a [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]return of [span style='font-weight: bold;]$401.49 - a [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]loss of [span style='font-weight: bold; color: #ff0000;]$52.14 for the month.
Month 2 (Oct/Nov 2012)
produced a result of [span style='font-weight: bold;]$532.07 [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]staked for a [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]return of [span style='font-weight: bold;]$459.04 - an overall [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]loss of [span style='font-weight: bold; color: #ff0000;]$73.03 for the month.
This meant an overall
performance over the first 2 months of [span style='font-weight: bold;]$985.70 [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]staked; [span style='font-weight: bold;]$860.53 [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]return - [span style='font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;]loss of [span style='font-weight: bold; color: #ff0000;]$125.17
Not the best start, but
could've been much worse!!!
So now we head on to the
3rd and 4th months of our performances.

[span style='font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;]Month 3 - Nov/Dec 2012
Another
shaky start with 2 donuts to start the 3rd month's roster,
but that all changed with [span style='font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;]Weazel (Sat 24th Nov) recording
a [span style='font-weight: bold;]$10.59
profit which was followed by another donut next day. The next 2 days
was a case of BANG, BANG as firstly [span...

Premier League



The participants for the finals are Jasmine, Karlos, Ruddy, Heaver, Mick and Anthak. Jasmine and Karlos have the first week off in the finals due to winning their respective conferences.

King of Karlos (10-6) 2175 v Adelaide Maggotz (5-10-1) 1928



Both teams played the identical number of games this round but Karlos came home strong and was able to overcome a determined Maggotz lineup. The best players for Karlos were Walker (265/6), Curry (241/5) and Green (230/6). The leading scorers for the Maggotz were Harden (261/5), Bosh (223/6) and Anderson (217/5). The Maggotz will be in a fight in the minor finals to avoid relegation.

Ruddy's Cavaliers (10-6) 1987 v Wade Machine (7-9) 1802



The Cavaliers posted a comfortable victory over Wade Machine this round and helped themselves to the No 4 seed in the finals. Once again Durant led the way with (310/5) for the Cavaliers followed by Monroe (227/6) and Hill (189/5). Wade Machine were best served by Wade (280/6), KG (180/5) and Ellis (218/5). Wade Machine will be going all out in the minor finals to avoid relegation.

Fudge's Sixers (3-13) 2069 v Run TMC (6-9-1) 1687



Fudge finally got back on the winners list and posted a very high score this round to defeat Run TMC. Fudge has been hit hard with injuries this season. The best players for Fudge this round were Dirk (280/5), Lawson (274/5) and Green (238/6). Run TMC has struggled over the latter half of the season and this week were led by George (226/5), Westbrook (243/5) and Noah (204/6). Fudge will also be in the battle of survival in the minor finals to avoid relegation.

Anthak (9-7) 2224 v Team Heaver (10-6) 2105



Anthak was able to get the close victory over Heaver this round which ensures his spot in the finals. This was highest scoring match of the round in the Premier League and right down to the very last day. The leading scorers for...

Here we are, two weeks in and we've managed a first look at every team.



Anyone catching your eye so far? Who have you brought in base on this weeks perform? Who should you?



Let's take a look at what's gone down this week.





Friday, 22th February



North vs Melbourne

Results: North by 2.



North had more of the ball, more kicks, more clearances and more contested possessions- and in the end, more points on the board winning by 2 point, by virtue of a Supergoal.



What we did see though, we North sharing the ball around a lot, which we all know is a goldmine for fantasy sports if they keep it up.



McMahon, SD Thompson, Swallow, Wright, ATLEY and JACOBS all benefitted massively from this, with McMahon breaking 60DT points.



Wright certainly added to his selection credentials under this gameplan, priced at a smidge under $400k, he's steadily increased his average over the past few years and could definitely step up.



The other obvious premium we're looking at here is Swallow. 12 disposals, 4 tackles and 50DT has him once again pushing for selection in my squad.



Sierakowski looks to be teasing again, a 115k defender would be fantastic, and with 9 touches and 42DT, would...

<p style='font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica; color: #424242;]If you play in a keeper league, like I imagine anyone reading this is, it's a pertinent question; what is pick 15 in a yearly draft worth? How do you even quantify that?

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<p style='font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica; color: #424242;]Head over the break and we explore what draft picks are worth in the long and short term.

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<p style='font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica; color: #424242;]I've been mulling over this question of draft pick worth for muchof the preseason. On the one hand given that in the ORFFL we're cutting lists down to a maximum of 20, that pick is essentially a R21 pick. We all remember R21 in the original; Lachie Hansen, Liam Jones, Jayden Post were a sample of names called out.

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<p style='font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica; color: #424242;]On the other hand though, where do Lance Franklin's come from?

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<p style='font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica; color: #424242;]This time last year the 18 ORFFL clubs drafted 42 first year players, picking them up on average in the 20th round. 15 GWS pre listed players (including 17yo's and Issy) and 18 players picked in the first 25 of the 2011 AFL ND.

<p style='font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica; color: #424242; min-height: 14px;]

<p style='font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica; color: #424242;]I bring up the first 25 players picked in the draft as when I began pondering the title question months ago there was a general consensus that there were roughly 25 rookies from the 2012 AFL draft worth picking. Further to that there was the contention that...

Well, it looks like Sportsbet has gotten into the Supercoach gambling market, creating 6 groups across the 4 positions.




So lets take a closer look at these groups, see if we can't find some value.




Group One: Mids




$ 2.75 Ablett

$ 4.50 Pendlebury

$ 6.00 Swan

$ 8.00 Watson

$ 8.00 Dangerfield

$ 8.00 Beams

$10.00 JPK

$10.00 J. Selwood





Ablett, the clear front runner would have won this group by a smidge over 100 points last year. However, considering the high averages at play here, that's only 1 game clear. So had he played 19 games last year (As he's done in the past), Watson, JPK and Dangerfield all would have hit beat.




Definitely worth a sneaky nibble on JPK I reckon, and maybe Beams if he can play all 22.




Group Two: Mids




$3.50 Cotchin




Alright, being a betting man, reckon you'd be crazy to bet against Cotchin in this group




Group Three: Mids




$5.00 S. Selwood

$5.50 Ward

$6.00 Sloane

$6.00 Griffin

$7.00 O'Keefe

$7.00 Judd

$7.00 Sidebottom

$8.00 Redden





Definitely some value here, but boy will it be tough to seperate. Selwood for mine rightfully tops the group, scoring the most this year, with a little room to grow, but then, Ward topped the averages in this group, but missed 2 game- also with some potential to grow.




Personally, I'd rule Griffen, O'keefe and Judd out, making it a group of 5. Definitely would be some worth in getting on a couple of them, but the amount of time they'd be holding your cash would make it not so worth it.




Group Four: Forwards




$2.75 Franklin

$5.50 Rockliff

$7.00 Rioli

$7.00 Zorko

$8.00 SJ

$8.00 Walker

$8.00 Chapman

$9.00 Hawkins





Franklin does deserve to top this group, his average is a mile ahead of his competitors....