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Hi all,

Just been doing some fascinating research (well fascinating to boffins like me) when thinking about how the premiership coaches learn their trade.

Lots of this thinking comes from the death of Yabby Jeans, and hearing of the way he influenced many future premiership coaches.   One might have been surprised to learn that Mick Malthouse, the Tigers premiership player was actually first mentored in the art of coaching by the great Jeans.

So I did what has probably been done countless times before, and I looked at each Premiership Coach from history, then worked out where their lineage came from.   There were some interesting and not altogether surprising results.   (Note: For the analysis below, a premiership could count in numerous streams if the coach had been previously mentored by two others.)

The dominant stream over football history I have dubbed the Tulloch, after Collingwood skipper and AFL grand final umpire, the great Lardie Tulloch.   It also gives the name a regal feel, after the awesome TJ Smith horse which was known as one of the best in history.

The Tulloch stream merged in with the Worrall/Clark and the Ricketts influenced many of the greatest coaches of the game.  They included Worrall, McHale, Minogue, Hughes, Bentley, Smith, Barassi, Walls, Blight, Roos and Clarkson.   This stream accounts for 46 of the premierships to have been decided in history.

For an analysis of current coaches (and future) and the other dominant streams, look over the break...

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So the Tulloch stream with 46 (Worrall stream 38, Ricketts stream 34) is the dominant stream of all time.  But recently, there have been other streams that have shone.  And there were decent streams in the past we must look at as well.

There was the Reynolds stream with 6, the Clymo stream with 5 and the Brosnan stream with 3 for those who have won more than 3.   These were in the years largely post-war, and were nipping at the heels of the great...
With many people writing off their 2011 seasons and resigning themselves to the odd tweak and a charge towards the finals- or worse, a charge towards the "minor cup", it gets to the point in the year where we start thinking about the Summer sports.

And with just 4 weeks to go, its probably time to start checking out the EPL.

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Now, what we played in these parts last year were both the official Barclays comp, and the Virtual Sports offering, however, since these two comps havent quite opened yet, I figure Ill fire up a <A href="http://fantasyfootball.metro.co.uk">Metro league</A> for anyone champing at the bit to get into it.

Anyways, the comp can be found here: <A href="http://fantasyfootball.metro.co.uk">HERE</A>, and the TooSerious league number is 11241.

Alright, so now thats done, lets take a quick look at the three new teams to move up to the Premier league this year, as you usually find, one of these teams will more than likely perform above the odds, so picking the right guys from them will be very important.

Swansea City

Its amazing how much a difference the home/away advantage is in Soccer and its none more pronounce than with Swansea, at home, they managed 41 goals while conceeding 11- the best in the Champions league last year- however away from home they scored just 28 while conceeding 31 goals, a huge change. It does mean than a cheap Swansea defender will probably be on the cards for all- just make sure hes on the bench when playing away. (This advice doesnt quite carry through to the VS comp with its 3 game rolling averages!).

Pick of the lot: I gotta say Scott Sinclair, he played 42 games last year for 22 goals- including a hat-trick. However, youll want to watch Swanseas signing of Watfords Danny Graham, who kicked 24 goals last year for the Hornets. On the defencive front, youll want to keep an eye on signing, but assuming nothing, keep an eye on Angel Rangel- what a name! He...
And so round 17 draws to a close- just two more weeks worth of league games til the finals roll up, so before I get into the reviews I gotta ask the question, Are you in? Or are the next two weeks hugely important?

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Essendon vs Adelaide
Result: Essendon by 11, 12.12.84 to 10.13.73

Alright, theres no way I can review this game without my bias showing through, it was definitely a game of two difference stories- and how inaccurate kicking changes games. It started off with the Bombers being inaccurate, kicking 2.7 to the first half, then kicking 10.5 in the second half. This was the total opposite of what Adelaide did, kicking 8.7 in the first half and 2.6 in the second half. Leading the charge for the Bombers was Angus Monfries, perhaps his confession throughout the week put a bit of a rocket under him- heres hoping he can continue that form! Anyways, he picked up 35 disposals for a 126SC. Top scoring for the Crow was Scott Thompson, who really seemed everywhere, picking up 37 touches and 111SC. Jacobs scored himself a 106SC with 30 hitouts, Petrenko played another great game with 19 touches for a 105SC whil Dangerfield kicked 3 goals for a 104SC. On the rookie front, Talia is approaching his bubble with a fantastic average and an 81SC this week- his DEF/FWD could be invaluable if youve got Murphy in your squad! The biggest villian for the game, through no fault of his own- he did score a 50 off essentially one quarter of football.

Heroes: Monfries, Thompsons, Jacobs
Villians: Howlett, Johncock, Smith

Richmond vs Gold Coast
Result: Gold Coast by 15, 12.13.85 to 9.16.70

Boy I love rooting for the Gold Coast, nothing beats cheering an underdog to victory, but as with Fridays game, it was really inaccurate kicking that kept them in it, with Richmond kicking 2.7 in the 3rd quarter. It was a strange game though, with one end of the ground having 19.23 kicked at it to 2.6 - bizarre. The top 3...
With the season getting to the pointy end and trades getting pretty slim on the ground, show of hands who wants to smack Heath Shaw upside the head for taking a punt on a Collingwood game? Apparently its all coming up Impromptu...

Anyhoo. Adelaide vs the Bombers coming up shortly. Go the Bombers! Catch you in the chat!
Hi all,

I dont have time for much discussion here.  Only to say that the whips are cracking for overall, and though many tipped Impromptu for a slide, he still has a few trades up the sleeve, and now the "not so secret" weapon in Joel Selwood.

I dont hold any knowledge of where hes thinking with this weeks captain selection, but he could do worse than give the Duckwood the job.

Its not easy to pull points back on the leader, but there are some past champs (Lings Bandits top 20, Buster Gonad just sneaking closer into the top 120) who are looming large for a late run.

Utilising the great work of Kel and TiB in the forums, Im going to piece together some nice stuff over the break and try to make sense of it all.

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Kel put together a good little guide to the top 20 team selections last week in the forums.   It was and is a bit hidden, but I located it, read it, and will give his summary...thanks for the great detective work mate!   And yes, I know its a week late so it may have been updated slightly with trades made last week.   But anyway it is a worthwhile guide to look at - because lets be honest how many top 20 teams had trades to burn last weekend?

Top 20 Teams - Forwards:
<a href="http://tooserious.net/forum?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&amp;t=968.0">http://tooserious.net/forum?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&amp;t=968.0[/url]

19 - Pavlich, Franklin 18 - Petrie 17 - Goodes 16 - N Riewoldt 14 - OKeefe 13 - Chapman 9 - Harvey 8 - Sylvia 7 - Johnson 4 - J Riewoldt, Fyfe 2 - Cloke, Higgins 1 - Brennan, Zaharakis, Lecras, Yarran, Rioli.

Points to note: Franklin bye this week.   Goodes + OKeefe + possible J Roo in Round 19.   No one has JB.   Enough have Sylvia and Chapman to make the options interesting.   Cloke looming as a very dangerous POD.   Harvey if his injury curtails him, thats going to hurt the owners big time.   I think its interesting heaps more have Chapman than Johnson.   MPP is an interesting...
Ablett and Harvey have both been named but surely will have question marks.

The big ins and outs are as follows:

INS: Smith, Toy, Watson (CAR), Selwood
OUTS: Callinan, Hibberd, Matera, Buckley
Extended Bench: N/A

Teams are over the break.
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Adelaide v Essendon
AS &#8211; Fri Jul 15, 8:10pm
Adelaide
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Andy Otten
HB: Matthew Jaensch, Daniel Talia, Michael Doughty
C: David Mackay, Scott Thompson, Richard Tambling
HF: Patrick Dangerfield, Ricky Henderson, Rory Sloane
F: Jared Petrenko, Kurt Tippett, Matthew Wright
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Bernie Vince, Nathan van Berlo
I/C: Brent Reilly, Brad Moran, Brad Symes, Brodie Smith
Emg: Ivan Maric, Myke Cook, Jack Gunston
In: Ricky Henderson, Brodie Smith
Out: Richard Douglas (Ankle), Ian Callinan (Hamstring)
Essendon
B: Ricky Dyson, Tayte Pears, Kyle Hardingham
HB: Dustin Fletcher, Michael Hurley, Dyson Heppell
C: Mark McVeigh, Brent Stanton, Brent Prismall
HF: Leroy Jetta, David Hille, David Zaharakis
F: Travis Colyer, Stewart Crameri, Angus Monfries
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jake Melksham, Heath Hocking
I/C: Henry Slattery, Alwyn Davey, Kyle Reimers, Ben Howlett
Emg: Cale Hooker, Tom Bellchambers, Michael Ross
In: Henry Slattery
Out: Michael Hibberd (Soreness)
Richmond v Gold Coast Suns
CAZ &#8211; Sat Jul 16, 2:10pm
Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Alex Rance, Luke McGuane
HB: Brett Deledio, Will Thursfield, Bachar Houli
C: Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
HF: Robin Nahas, Ben Griffiths, Bradley Helbig
F: Tyrone Vickery, Jack Riewoldt, Jake King
Foll: Andrew Browne, Reece Conca, Nathan Foley
I/C: Daniel Jackson, Matthew White, Shaun Grigg, Jake Batchelor
Emg: Shane Tuck, Mitch Morton, Mitchell Farmer...
The big question this week is will Ablett play or not? And, if he does play, how effective will he be? The numbers below reveal that Ablett is the best option but given the number of question marks hanging over his head, is he worth the risk?

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Ablett v. Richmond

Rd 2 2009: 139 SuperCoach points, 29 disposals
Rd 8 2008: 164 SuperCoach points, 27 disposals
Rd 18 2007: 133 SuperCoach points, 28 disposals
Rd 6 2007: 170 SuperCoach points, 32 disposals

Average is 152 SuperCoach points with 29 disposals.

Note: After a huge average of 172 against Sydney (last week), Ablett again delivers with a 152 average against he Tigers. No scores below 133. However, everyone will no doubt be worried about the extent of his knee injury. Remember that in his seven games since Round 8 (not including last week), he averaged 150.

Cox v. St Kilda

Rd 9 2010: 107 SuperCoach points, 21 disposals, 34 hitouts
Rd 15 2009: 62 SuperCoach points, 11 disposals, 14 hitouts
Rd 3 2009: 112 SuperCoach points, 24 disposals, 27 hitouts
Rd 17 2008: 82 SuperCoach points, 18 disposals, 27 hitouts
Rd 21 2008: 112 SuperCoach points, 23 disposals, 33 hitouts
Rd 12 2008: 125 SuperCoach points, 22 disposals, 25 hitouts

Average is 101 SuperCoach points with 20 disposals and 27 hitouts.

Note: Up and down record against the Saints with his highest score only being 125 back in 2008. Recent form has been steady but not great. No big scores. Coming off three scores of only 101, 108, 105 and 114.

Swan v. Carlton

Rd 3 2011: 108 SuperCoach points, 34 disposals
Rd 18 2010: 152 SuperCoach points, 31 disposals
Rd 6 2010: 113 SuperCoach points, 31 disposals
Rd 17 2009: 136 SuperCoach points, 38 disposals
Rd 8 2009: 90 SuperCoach points, 30 disposals
Rd 12 2008: 124 SuperCoach points, 27 disposals
Rd 4 2008: 85 SuperCoach points, 27 disposals
Rd 18 2007: 108 SuperCoach points, 24 disposals
Rd 7 2007: 128 SuperCoach points, 29 disposals
Rd 21 2006: 130 SuperCoach...
...thanks to <a href="http://www.aflanalysis.com/">AFL Analysis[/url].

Now, to put a little context around that statement, the latest edition of TS|Extra just got sent out (Curse this needing to acquire gainful employment as the season winds down!) - On the plus side though, the midnight edition of the newsletter is a lot more risqué than its lunchtime counterpart, so make sure the kids dont read it til morning, when it reverts to its usual G rating.

But I digress, <a href="http://www.aflanalysis.com/">AFL Analysis[/url] are the main sponsors of the TS|Extra this week and run what is in essence, a tipping site, where they have kept a running record of their tips so far this season, and have come out alright thus far. Sure, its not the prettiest site on the internets, but hey- for the longest time this place looked like I threw numbers up on it, so check it out and let the data do the talking.

and as an added bonus, if you sign up for an account there, youll go into a draw to win a $1,000 free bet with Luxbet. Not everyones cup of tea, but hey- a $1000 freebet is a $1000 freebet! :D
And then there was 2…


If we have worked out anything with these multi bye weekends is that anything can happen and the scoring drops off dramatically. This weekend say the demise of Green Jellybeans who was comprehensively beaten by IPIKDA WONG PRAYER and Rommel’s Legion going down in a nail biter to simonoz. The Legion will be kicking themselves for not trading like they had wanted to do all week. The final looks like its going to be a absolute ripper &amp; at first glance IWP would go in as favourite based on a more consistent performance throughout the competition.
In the Total Points Championship yet again we saw Licky My Nutz come from nowhere to pinch top spot, but not just pinch it they have now opened up a nice 104 point gap after scoring a mighty impressive  2435 (which is highest single week score so far). I think there is only 4 teams in striking distance to take this out now. Think any more then 200 points will be tough to make up but then again past 2 weeks have thrown that out the window!!

Results over the break:

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<h2>WEEK 4 (Round 16)
Match 29 - Rommel’s Legion: 2010 LOST simonoz: 2051

Match 30 – Green Jellybeans: 1945 LOST IPIKDA WONG PRAYER: 2297
<h2>Final (Round 19)
Match 31 - Simonoz vs IPIKDA WONG PRAYER

TOTAL POINTS CHAMPIONSHIP
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<td width="148" valign="bottom">TEAM
<td width="64" valign="bottom">Week 1
<td width="64" valign="bottom">Week 2
<td width="64" valign="bottom">Week 3
<td width="64" valign="bottom">Week 4
<td width="64" valign="bottom">Week 5
<td width="64" valign="bottom">TOTAL
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<td width="148" valign="bottom">Licky My Nutz
<td width="64" valign="bottom">2344
<td width="64" valign="bottom">2029
<td width="64" valign="bottom">2048
<td width="64" valign="bottom">2435
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Looks like we have 2 players this week who correctly predicted Luke Hodge as being #1 this week with his very tidy score of 163.

So check over the break for the winners!
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Tylo - Hodge 167 - missed by 4

HeavyMen - Hodge 153 - missed by 10

torcida - Pendlebury 160 - right on the nose



torcida, I remember you talking about it in the chat, hitting Pendles score directly, it was just a matter of how many others picked Hodge! Well, congrats mate!!


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