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Well, if Sandilands returns this week, this page, though maybe giving a few hints has also given a few pieces of dangerous advice!
The mea culpa of the past few weeks - the advice to trade Sandilands may just prove flawed (it was always a line ball thing), the Bartel trade from last week is a shocker, and never go the captains that I select, because Im clearly pushing the envelope rather than going for the tried, true thanks for the 130 in the bank option.
I didnt go Bartel in the end, through good luck rather than good management, and it worked out. He could so easily have smoked a 140 and things would be different for lots of the top 100 teams. Â But he didnt. Â Sandilands could return, but I still think he will miss this one, then play a restricted, maybe subbed role next week, and be full capacity in Round 17 (against Mumford). Â I have no evidence on this.
So everything in Best Buys needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Â The good news is, in general, if you put a trade option to the community, they will get it right. Â And so the value of this discussion board remains.
Over the break, I have a few short thoughts, but mainly just the Best Buys and AAs.
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The thought for the week is bye management. Â If you need to trade someone in, think about if they have already had their bye. Â Because if they havent, you might be throwing away 50-60 points. Â Over the course of 10 games, its now become a significant 6 points per game. Â So yeah, think about waiting or getting the good options as they come available. Â You might not get the gilt edged champ, but yours can be running to the finish line. Â Always your call, but if the champ misses an extra, you are really up the creek (ala Bartel).
Best Buys- and Im really looking at premiums here:
D: Â Suckling and Enright are still solid options. Â Robert Murphy is there for those who like a FD swinger. Â Adcock is very cheap but his injury situation clouds the issue. Â ...
The mea culpa of the past few weeks - the advice to trade Sandilands may just prove flawed (it was always a line ball thing), the Bartel trade from last week is a shocker, and never go the captains that I select, because Im clearly pushing the envelope rather than going for the tried, true thanks for the 130 in the bank option.
I didnt go Bartel in the end, through good luck rather than good management, and it worked out. He could so easily have smoked a 140 and things would be different for lots of the top 100 teams. Â But he didnt. Â Sandilands could return, but I still think he will miss this one, then play a restricted, maybe subbed role next week, and be full capacity in Round 17 (against Mumford). Â I have no evidence on this.
So everything in Best Buys needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Â The good news is, in general, if you put a trade option to the community, they will get it right. Â And so the value of this discussion board remains.
Over the break, I have a few short thoughts, but mainly just the Best Buys and AAs.
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The thought for the week is bye management. Â If you need to trade someone in, think about if they have already had their bye. Â Because if they havent, you might be throwing away 50-60 points. Â Over the course of 10 games, its now become a significant 6 points per game. Â So yeah, think about waiting or getting the good options as they come available. Â You might not get the gilt edged champ, but yours can be running to the finish line. Â Always your call, but if the champ misses an extra, you are really up the creek (ala Bartel).
Best Buys- and Im really looking at premiums here:
D: Â Suckling and Enright are still solid options. Â Robert Murphy is there for those who like a FD swinger. Â Adcock is very cheap but his injury situation clouds the issue. Â ...
Ive spent some time doing the analysis. Â And its time for another issue of Beat the Best.
This time, unlike others, I do honestly believe the front crew are far enough away to ward off defeat. Â Im almost prepared to say that those outside the top 10 are gone - but Im not considering that they can still make up enough points through trades to be about where I think 10th is. Â But they would still have to pull some almighty risks to win, because the aim of the game is to have the most points at Round 24, not to have the best team!
So, its been brutal the last couple of weeks, but like the carnivorous Contador before him, The Cheeky Boys has run off with the prize, leaving all of the other chasing competitors gasping for breath. Â Theres no Lance Armstrong in the chasing crew, nor any Schleck brothers. Â All you can see down the road are bruised and almost beaten Cadel Evans. Â With no support team, but knowing the time trial is soon, and maybe thats where a few seconds can be made up.
But just like chasing Contador, its often a futile exercise, because just as good as that Spanish conquistador is at bashing up the hills, hes equally talented on the flat. Â For mine, I reckon Cheeky isnt home, but my goodness hes close to it. Â And thats why this week is a week the chasing pack must fight together and bring him down a notch.
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In doing the analysis for the above, Ive noted the top 10 teams (plus I had a quick peek at Lings Bandits) and they are within 500 points from the lead (or in the case of Cheeky - in it).
Cruical points I think are the ability to get cover for the premiums when they take a rest (enforced or not), how many premiums have already had their bye (and could therefore conceivably mean points come back into play), and theres been a brief look at whether the team can stand multiple outs in a week.
From here the keys I see are:
This week Cheeky loses Fisher, Goddard, Adcock. Â He has a complete spud on the...
This time, unlike others, I do honestly believe the front crew are far enough away to ward off defeat. Â Im almost prepared to say that those outside the top 10 are gone - but Im not considering that they can still make up enough points through trades to be about where I think 10th is. Â But they would still have to pull some almighty risks to win, because the aim of the game is to have the most points at Round 24, not to have the best team!
So, its been brutal the last couple of weeks, but like the carnivorous Contador before him, The Cheeky Boys has run off with the prize, leaving all of the other chasing competitors gasping for breath. Â Theres no Lance Armstrong in the chasing crew, nor any Schleck brothers. Â All you can see down the road are bruised and almost beaten Cadel Evans. Â With no support team, but knowing the time trial is soon, and maybe thats where a few seconds can be made up.
But just like chasing Contador, its often a futile exercise, because just as good as that Spanish conquistador is at bashing up the hills, hes equally talented on the flat. Â For mine, I reckon Cheeky isnt home, but my goodness hes close to it. Â And thats why this week is a week the chasing pack must fight together and bring him down a notch.
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In doing the analysis for the above, Ive noted the top 10 teams (plus I had a quick peek at Lings Bandits) and they are within 500 points from the lead (or in the case of Cheeky - in it).
Cruical points I think are the ability to get cover for the premiums when they take a rest (enforced or not), how many premiums have already had their bye (and could therefore conceivably mean points come back into play), and theres been a brief look at whether the team can stand multiple outs in a week.
From here the keys I see are:
This week Cheeky loses Fisher, Goddard, Adcock. Â He has a complete spud on the...
Can the second best midfielder in a team with the Brownlow Medal? Â Generally yes, when your best is Judd....maybe?
Marc Murphy has gone from being a consistently good player to a consistently great player in the space of one season. Â His expected 2 votes on the weekend sees him equal 1st with those that are eligible - I have him now polling in 9 games, without one BOG. Â A couple of those turn in to three on the night, and hed be in a very good position come the conclusion of round 13.
Looking around the teams, Mitchell has overtaken Franklin, and now has an extra game up his sleeve. Â NM is becoming very close, with any of Swallow, Wells and Harvey a chance. Â Fantastic odds on Harvey at the moment considering his history (most NM votes every year going as far back as I can remember), + could have 3 BOGs to date.
Dustin Martin is also pulling away from both Cotchin and Deledio, although hes not there yet. Â Youd think Priddis is nearly home now too.
This weeks votes over the page:
<!--more-->[span style="text-decoration: underline">Bulldogs v Crows
TS:
3 - R. Murphy (3)
2 - R. Griffen (5)
1 - D. Giansiracusa (1)
Holey:
3 - R. Griffen (6)
2 - R. Murphy (2)
1 - D. Giansiracusa (1)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Hawks v Suns
TS:
3 - S. Mitchell (15)
2 - S. Savage (2)
1 - G. Ablett (10)
Holey:
3 - S. Mitchell (14)
2 - G. Ablett (12)
1 - S. Savage (3)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Roos v Bombers
TS:
3 - B. Harvey (8)
2 - B. Rawlings (2)
1 - A. Swallow (9)
Holey:
3 - B. Harvey (8)
2 - A. Swallow (9)
1 - D. Petrie (5)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Cats v Saints
TS:
3 - N. Dal Santo (7)
2 - J. Corey (2)
1 - S. Fisher (4)
Holey:
3 - C. Ling (6)
2 - N. Dal Santo (7)
1 - J. Corey (1)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Tigers v Lions
TS:
3 - D. Martin (10)
2 - T. Cotchin (8)
1 - M. Leuenberger (1)
Holey:
3 - D. Martin (10)
2 - T. Cotchin (6)
1 - M....
Marc Murphy has gone from being a consistently good player to a consistently great player in the space of one season. Â His expected 2 votes on the weekend sees him equal 1st with those that are eligible - I have him now polling in 9 games, without one BOG. Â A couple of those turn in to three on the night, and hed be in a very good position come the conclusion of round 13.
Looking around the teams, Mitchell has overtaken Franklin, and now has an extra game up his sleeve. Â NM is becoming very close, with any of Swallow, Wells and Harvey a chance. Â Fantastic odds on Harvey at the moment considering his history (most NM votes every year going as far back as I can remember), + could have 3 BOGs to date.
Dustin Martin is also pulling away from both Cotchin and Deledio, although hes not there yet. Â Youd think Priddis is nearly home now too.
This weeks votes over the page:
<!--more-->[span style="text-decoration: underline">Bulldogs v Crows
TS:
3 - R. Murphy (3)
2 - R. Griffen (5)
1 - D. Giansiracusa (1)
Holey:
3 - R. Griffen (6)
2 - R. Murphy (2)
1 - D. Giansiracusa (1)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Hawks v Suns
TS:
3 - S. Mitchell (15)
2 - S. Savage (2)
1 - G. Ablett (10)
Holey:
3 - S. Mitchell (14)
2 - G. Ablett (12)
1 - S. Savage (3)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Roos v Bombers
TS:
3 - B. Harvey (8)
2 - B. Rawlings (2)
1 - A. Swallow (9)
Holey:
3 - B. Harvey (8)
2 - A. Swallow (9)
1 - D. Petrie (5)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Cats v Saints
TS:
3 - N. Dal Santo (7)
2 - J. Corey (2)
1 - S. Fisher (4)
Holey:
3 - C. Ling (6)
2 - N. Dal Santo (7)
1 - J. Corey (1)
[span style="text-decoration: underline">Tigers v Lions
TS:
3 - D. Martin (10)
2 - T. Cotchin (8)
1 - M. Leuenberger (1)
Holey:
3 - D. Martin (10)
2 - T. Cotchin (6)
1 - M....
I thought why not raise a thread to share the dumb things weve done each round. I will add mine to the comments below. Though I managed to scrape out a score over 2000 this weekend, I felt cursed when my ipod on random kicked out Dumb Things by Paul Kelly...again! So I just gutted it out and knew that it was a week for getting kicked to the curb. So, Ive already seen some classic "DTs" in the review thread, lets have a laugh at the game of Supercoach in this thread!
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Alright, weve just been through the first week of iScenting, and with a winning score of 2538, which in the real world would have been the 5th highest, is SuperCoach, weazel.
Well done champ! Expect an email in an inbox near you! You get the first choice of the 4 packages that <a href="http://www.iscent.com.au/">iScent[/url] have so graciously donated.
Read more, including the winning team, over the break.
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You can check how you did <a href="http://tooserious.net/competitions.php?competition=iScent&ladder=1">here[/url]. Dont forget though, if you missed last round, just get a team in for this week! While we display your total, its just your weekly scores that matter!
Oh, and just for interests sake, the winning team was:
DEF
Stefan Martin137
Brady Rawlings122
Graham Johncock117
Brett Deledio114
Cameron PEDERSEN112
Chris Newman91
Brendon Goddard84
Jeremy MCGOVERN0
Rhys OKeeffe0
James WEBSTER0
MID
Gary Ablett (C)288
Sam Mitchell144
Jack Redden134
Matt Priddis106
Tendai MZUNGU92
Matthew Boyd91
Ian CALLINAN0
Thomas SCHNEIDER0
Derick WANGANEEN0
RUC
Matthew Leuenberger135
Dean Cox105
Mitchell CURNOW0
Bart McCulloch0
FWD
Brent Harvey122
Isaac SMITH107
Mark LeCras106
Matthew Pavlich90
Lance Franklin89
Cyril Rioli85
Aaron Edwards67
Declan REILLY0
Jake VON BERTOUCH0
Kelvin LAWRENCE0
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Alright, weve just been through the first week of iScenting, and with a winning score of 2538, which in the real world would have been the 5th highest, is SuperCoach, weazel.
Well done champ! Expect an email in an inbox near you! You get the first choice of the 4 packages that <a href="http://www.iscent.com.au/">iScent[/url] have so graciously donated.
Read more, including the winning team, over the break.
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You can check how you did <a href="http://tooserious.net/competitions.php?competition=iScent&ladder=1">here[/url]. Dont forget though, if you missed last round, just get a team in for this week! While we display your total, its just your weekly scores that matter!
Oh, and just for interests sake, the winning team was:
DEF
Stefan Martin137
Brady Rawlings122
Graham Johncock117
Brett Deledio114
Cameron PEDERSEN112
Chris Newman91
Brendon Goddard84
Jeremy MCGOVERN0
Rhys OKeeffe0
James WEBSTER0
MID
Gary Ablett (C)288
Sam Mitchell144
Jack Redden134
Matt Priddis106
Tendai MZUNGU92
Matthew Boyd91
Ian CALLINAN0
Thomas SCHNEIDER0
Derick WANGANEEN0
RUC
Matthew Leuenberger135
Dean Cox105
Mitchell CURNOW0
Bart McCulloch0
FWD
Brent Harvey122
Isaac SMITH107
Mark LeCras106
Matthew Pavlich90
Lance Franklin89
Cyril Rioli85
Aaron Edwards67
Declan REILLY0
Jake VON BERTOUCH0
Kelvin LAWRENCE0
and to check out Silverbacks Team of the Round, <a href="http://tooserious.net/forum?mingleforumaction=viewtopic&t=865.0">click here[/url]
Well, if you didnt get hit by a bullet last week, I reckon you would have been hit this week- once again, this time with Collingwood already making life tough for us, weve seen a good number of premiums getting hit- none worse that Bartel who copped himself an early game concussion. I feel for everyone who went Mundy/Selwood -> Bartel!
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Bulldogs vs Adelaide
Result: Bulldogs by 30, 14.16.100 to 10.10.70
The crows started the game very well, going into the first break with a 4 goal lead, but after that it was all Doggies, kicking 12 goals to 4 in the last three quarters. Leading the way for the Dogs was Robert Murphy, his 26 touches getting him a very nice 139SC. Andy Otten top scored for the Crows with a 131SC off 22 touches- I bet theres many a coach who is wishing they hadnt pulled his plug quite so quickly, I know I am! Griffin put in a solid game with 7 clearances and 2 goals for a 129SC while Higgins continues to rub it in the faces of his former coaches with a 26 touch 126SC. Rounding out the top5 was Graham Johncock, whos 20 touches at a 90% DE saw him score a 117SC. Dahlhaus did well, approaching his bubble with a 69SC while Schofield showed a bit with a 31SC. Gilbee however continued his downward spiral, scoring a 62, while captain choice, Matthew Boy could only manage a 91 off 22 touches. Knights had a shocking performance, touching the ball just 4 times for a 20SC. Meanwhile, Cooneys first game back saw him play as the sub, and kept him restricted to just 25SC.
Heroes: Murphy, Otten, Griffen
Villains: Knights, Cooney, Boyd
Hawthorn vs Gold Coast
Result: Hawthorn by 71, 19.15.129 to 8.10.58
We headed down to Tassie to see the Hawks take on the Suns, thankfully the volcano didnt cause the potential disaster that many were predicting! It was a good game early, with the Gold Coast kicking the first two goals of the game, in fact the we pretty competitive up until the main break,...
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Bulldogs vs Adelaide
Result: Bulldogs by 30, 14.16.100 to 10.10.70
The crows started the game very well, going into the first break with a 4 goal lead, but after that it was all Doggies, kicking 12 goals to 4 in the last three quarters. Leading the way for the Dogs was Robert Murphy, his 26 touches getting him a very nice 139SC. Andy Otten top scored for the Crows with a 131SC off 22 touches- I bet theres many a coach who is wishing they hadnt pulled his plug quite so quickly, I know I am! Griffin put in a solid game with 7 clearances and 2 goals for a 129SC while Higgins continues to rub it in the faces of his former coaches with a 26 touch 126SC. Rounding out the top5 was Graham Johncock, whos 20 touches at a 90% DE saw him score a 117SC. Dahlhaus did well, approaching his bubble with a 69SC while Schofield showed a bit with a 31SC. Gilbee however continued his downward spiral, scoring a 62, while captain choice, Matthew Boy could only manage a 91 off 22 touches. Knights had a shocking performance, touching the ball just 4 times for a 20SC. Meanwhile, Cooneys first game back saw him play as the sub, and kept him restricted to just 25SC.
Heroes: Murphy, Otten, Griffen
Villains: Knights, Cooney, Boyd
Hawthorn vs Gold Coast
Result: Hawthorn by 71, 19.15.129 to 8.10.58
We headed down to Tassie to see the Hawks take on the Suns, thankfully the volcano didnt cause the potential disaster that many were predicting! It was a good game early, with the Gold Coast kicking the first two goals of the game, in fact the we pretty competitive up until the main break,...
My guess is...hurting. Or at least, my team is with Bartels 4 and Roos effort or lack there of.
With Stevie J, Buddy, JRoo, Matty Boyd and Goddard all posting sub-100 scores and quite a few of the popular rookies whove been pulled in to cover the many outs proving why theyre warming the bench rather than occupying space on the field, the pain is going to be felt all over. There have been a couple of bright spots in Ablett, Fisher, Sam Mitchell an Higgins rewarding the faithful but, from what Ive seen an absent some miraculous turn around tomorrow, the par score this week is going to be low.
On the upside, weve seen in past weeks that the low scoring weekends offer opportunity for those whove played their cards right to really charge up the ladder on the overall.
So how are you doing? Riding the storm or bullet ridden? Are you winning your leagues or is it too close to call?
With Stevie J, Buddy, JRoo, Matty Boyd and Goddard all posting sub-100 scores and quite a few of the popular rookies whove been pulled in to cover the many outs proving why theyre warming the bench rather than occupying space on the field, the pain is going to be felt all over. There have been a couple of bright spots in Ablett, Fisher, Sam Mitchell an Higgins rewarding the faithful but, from what Ive seen an absent some miraculous turn around tomorrow, the par score this week is going to be low.
On the upside, weve seen in past weeks that the low scoring weekends offer opportunity for those whove played their cards right to really charge up the ladder on the overall.
So how are you doing? Riding the storm or bullet ridden? Are you winning your leagues or is it too close to call?
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With the absence of a number of popular captain’s choices, I suspect that the choice this week comes down to a small number. Swan, Pendlebury, Sandilands, Selwood and Mundy are all out. The popular choices will be Ablett against Hawthorn down in Tasmania, anyone from Hawthorn against the Suns and Cox in a home game against Port Adelaide. Let’s see how the numbers look …
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Ablett v. Hawthorn
Rd 15 2010: ,79 SuperCoach points, ,32 disposals
Rd 2 2010: ,128 SuperCoach points, ,38 disposals
Rd 17 2009: ,139 SuperCoach points, ,33 disposals
Rd 1 2009: ,162 SuperCoach points, ,35 disposals
Rd 4 2007: ,113 SuperCoach points, ,17 disposals
Rd 22 2006: ,107 SuperCoach points,,27 disposals
Rd 3 2006: ,61 SuperCoach points, ,13 disposals
Average is 113 SuperCoach points with 28 disposals.
Note: Take out the scores under 100 and his average jumps to 130 SuperCoach points and 30 disposals. Has been in dominant, and league leading, form over the past four rounds averaging 149 SuperCoach points. Has shown he has the ability to get huge scores even when the Suns are thumped.
Cox v. Port Adelaide
Rd 2 2011: ,129 SuperCoach points, ,21 disposals
Rd 20 2010: ,126 SuperCoach points, ,23 disposals
Rd 2 2010: ,41 SuperCoach points, ,7 disposals
Rd 2 2009: ,116 SuperCoach points, ,21 disposals
Rd 5 2008: ,95 SuperCoach points, ,19 disposals
Rd 15 2007: ,60 SuperCoach points, ,15 disposals
Rd 12 2006: ,85 SuperCoach points,,15 disposals
Rd 10 2005: ,42 SuperCoach points, ,17 disposals
Average is 87 SuperCoach points with 17 disposals.
Note: A good recent record against the Power but a well below average against them before that. Poor record due to the matchup against Brogan/Lade in their prime. Has been in consistent form this year – averaging 126 over his past seven games.
Judd v. Sydney
Rd 6 2011: ,154 SuperCoach points, ,33 disposals
Rd 16 2010: ,86 SuperCoach points, ,28 disposals
Rd 16 2009: ,107 SuperCoach points,...
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Ablett v. Hawthorn
Rd 15 2010: ,79 SuperCoach points, ,32 disposals
Rd 2 2010: ,128 SuperCoach points, ,38 disposals
Rd 17 2009: ,139 SuperCoach points, ,33 disposals
Rd 1 2009: ,162 SuperCoach points, ,35 disposals
Rd 4 2007: ,113 SuperCoach points, ,17 disposals
Rd 22 2006: ,107 SuperCoach points,,27 disposals
Rd 3 2006: ,61 SuperCoach points, ,13 disposals
Average is 113 SuperCoach points with 28 disposals.
Note: Take out the scores under 100 and his average jumps to 130 SuperCoach points and 30 disposals. Has been in dominant, and league leading, form over the past four rounds averaging 149 SuperCoach points. Has shown he has the ability to get huge scores even when the Suns are thumped.
Cox v. Port Adelaide
Rd 2 2011: ,129 SuperCoach points, ,21 disposals
Rd 20 2010: ,126 SuperCoach points, ,23 disposals
Rd 2 2010: ,41 SuperCoach points, ,7 disposals
Rd 2 2009: ,116 SuperCoach points, ,21 disposals
Rd 5 2008: ,95 SuperCoach points, ,19 disposals
Rd 15 2007: ,60 SuperCoach points, ,15 disposals
Rd 12 2006: ,85 SuperCoach points,,15 disposals
Rd 10 2005: ,42 SuperCoach points, ,17 disposals
Average is 87 SuperCoach points with 17 disposals.
Note: A good recent record against the Power but a well below average against them before that. Poor record due to the matchup against Brogan/Lade in their prime. Has been in consistent form this year – averaging 126 over his past seven games.
Judd v. Sydney
Rd 6 2011: ,154 SuperCoach points, ,33 disposals
Rd 16 2010: ,86 SuperCoach points, ,28 disposals
Rd 16 2009: ,107 SuperCoach points,...
So, the teams are out and thankfully, there aint too much to worry about with the extended benches. Also, just the one surprise out in D. Swallow- so your considerations from throughout the week are still applicable.
That said, it still doesnt make covering the midfield outs- and Smith any easier!
Also, word is that Montagna it still a good chance to be a late withdrawal, so keep an eye on that!
The big ins and outs are:
INS: Cooney, Gilbee, Bailey, Hale, I. Smith, Bellchambers, Bewick, Mumford
OUTS: Howard, Guerra, Roughead, Z. Smith, D. Swallow, Selwood, Mundy, Hille, Adcock, Batchelor
Extended Bench: Evans, Nicholson, Palmer, Barlow
Full teams over the break
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Western Bulldogs
B: Liam Picken, Tom L. Williams, Easton Wood
HB: Robert Murphy, Dale Morris, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd, Justin Sherman
HF: Shaun Higgins, Liam Jones, Callan Ward
F: Luke Dahlhaus, William Minson, Daniel Giansiracusa
Foll: Ben Hudson, Ryan Griffen, Adam Cooney
I/C: Ed Barlow, Nathan Djerrkura, Thomas Liberatore, Jayden Schofield
Emg: Sam Reid, Christian Howard, Lukas Markovic
In: Adam Cooney, Lindsay Gilbee, Jayden Schofield
Out: Brennan Stack (Hamstring), James Mulligan (Calf), Christian Howard
New: Jayden Schofield (East Fremantle)
Adelaide
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Luke Thompson
HB: Michael Doughty, Andy Otten, Brad Symes
C: Matthew Jaensch, Scott Thompson, Nathan van Berlo
HF: Chris Knights, Ricky Henderson, Rory Sloane
F: Jack Gunston, Kurt Tippett, Matthew Wright
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Richard Douglas, Patrick Dangerfield
I/C: Bernie Vince, Jared Petrenko, Shaun McKernan, Christopher Schmidt
Emg: Ivan Maric, Aidan Riley, Richard Tambling
In: Ricky Henderson, Christopher Schmidt
Out: Brent Reilly (Knee), James Sellar
Hawthorn
B: Grant Birchall, Josh Gibson, Paul Puopolo
HB: Matt Suckling, Ryan Schoenmakers, Thomas Murphy
C: Isaac Smith, Sam Mitchell, Shane Savage
HF: Shaun Burgoyne, Lance Franklin,...
That said, it still doesnt make covering the midfield outs- and Smith any easier!
Also, word is that Montagna it still a good chance to be a late withdrawal, so keep an eye on that!
The big ins and outs are:
INS: Cooney, Gilbee, Bailey, Hale, I. Smith, Bellchambers, Bewick, Mumford
OUTS: Howard, Guerra, Roughead, Z. Smith, D. Swallow, Selwood, Mundy, Hille, Adcock, Batchelor
Extended Bench: Evans, Nicholson, Palmer, Barlow
Full teams over the break
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Western Bulldogs
B: Liam Picken, Tom L. Williams, Easton Wood
HB: Robert Murphy, Dale Morris, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd, Justin Sherman
HF: Shaun Higgins, Liam Jones, Callan Ward
F: Luke Dahlhaus, William Minson, Daniel Giansiracusa
Foll: Ben Hudson, Ryan Griffen, Adam Cooney
I/C: Ed Barlow, Nathan Djerrkura, Thomas Liberatore, Jayden Schofield
Emg: Sam Reid, Christian Howard, Lukas Markovic
In: Adam Cooney, Lindsay Gilbee, Jayden Schofield
Out: Brennan Stack (Hamstring), James Mulligan (Calf), Christian Howard
New: Jayden Schofield (East Fremantle)
Adelaide
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Luke Thompson
HB: Michael Doughty, Andy Otten, Brad Symes
C: Matthew Jaensch, Scott Thompson, Nathan van Berlo
HF: Chris Knights, Ricky Henderson, Rory Sloane
F: Jack Gunston, Kurt Tippett, Matthew Wright
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Richard Douglas, Patrick Dangerfield
I/C: Bernie Vince, Jared Petrenko, Shaun McKernan, Christopher Schmidt
Emg: Ivan Maric, Aidan Riley, Richard Tambling
In: Ricky Henderson, Christopher Schmidt
Out: Brent Reilly (Knee), James Sellar
Hawthorn
B: Grant Birchall, Josh Gibson, Paul Puopolo
HB: Matt Suckling, Ryan Schoenmakers, Thomas Murphy
C: Isaac Smith, Sam Mitchell, Shane Savage
HF: Shaun Burgoyne, Lance Franklin,...
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