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Weve got another user-generated article, this one was put together Griff and looks at a topic that Im certain will be discussed at length over the NAB.

Without further ado-

Hi everyone, griff here with my first board article. I wanted to generate some discussion on what everyone is planning with regards to supersubs.

With the byes this year, it is more important than ever to have good bench coverage. A lot of you will do this through MPP, and probably look to build up a player or two on your benches that can score well, and sub for almost any line through MPP links.

The question is, who, and how?
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The common MPP structure is to have MPP premiums as forwards and defenders linking to MPP rookies on the midfield bench, as there are a dearth of pure forwards and defenders with premium status, as highlighted nicely by Lucas’ last article.

This however means that you can’t slaughter those MPP rookies, unless there is another worthwhile option with the same multi-positioning on the bubble to go to. This is unlikely, given the limited lists below:

M/F Rookies

Tendai Mzungu (FRE)
Thomas Schneider (HAW) (Rookie Listed)
Isaac Smith (HAW)
Dion Prestia (GC)
Ian Callinan (ADE)
Nick Winmar (STK)
Dylan McNeil (SYD) (Rookie Listed)

D/M Rookies

Taylor Hine (GC)
Warrick Andreoli (STK) (Rookie Listed)
Ben Jacobs (PA)
Dan Nicholson (MEL) (Rookie Listed)
Bradley Harvey (BL) (Rookie Listed)
Dyson Heppell (ESS)
Michael Hibberd (ESS)
Xavier Clark (BL) (Injured, out for season)
Simon Buckley (COL)

So the MPP rookies you select to start with may need to stay in your side all season, and perhaps become your permarookies & supersubs.

If you want a Waters or Maguire type as your supersub, someone that gets too close to premium status to spend a trade on, you’ll need to keep them on hand AS WELL as your original MPP rookies, or find MPP downgrade targets.

If you are advanced enough to upgrade positions 23 & 24 to...
<p style="text-align: justify">Big news today is the trade of Melo to the Knicks! Massive trade involving 3 teams, 12 players and 2 draft picks (which beats my trade to get Durantula from our TooSerious Knicks). To paraphrase chris88 from his comments today in last weeks thread: The Knicks gave up half their team, mostly young improving players and ‘all’ their draft picks, for a star who cant play D, an old PG and bench shit. :lol: Another way of putting it [the official way] is: C. Anthony, C. Billups, C. Brewer, S. Williams, A. Carter and R. Balkman go to the Knicks; while W. Chandler, R. Felton, D. Gallinari, T. Mozgov, a first-rounder and two second-rounders go to the Nuggets, and A. Randolph and E. Curry head to the T-wolves. I’m missing something in regards to the 2 players going to Minnasota?? But anyway, thats how it went down.
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<p style="text-align: justify">After this trade, Mozgov and Turiaf were both snapped up from the FA’s pretty quickly. I reckon its hard to know how this will affect the players involved in a fantasy sense – but there are a few things that I will throw out there: 1) Turiaf will now be starting for the Knicks. 2) Afflalo and Nene have some competition now at the Nuggets, which may or may not be a good thing for their game. 3) Anthony Randolph should see a lot more min at the TWolves. 4) Just after I suggested that Walesy drop him, a player who was also a big part of our mammoth 3 team trade – Sheldon Williams – should see more game time at NY (admittedly, its not hard to improve from DNPCD’s).
<p style="text-align: justify">The trade deadline is now only a few days away, so it will be interesting to see if there are any other trades on the horizon.
<p style="text-align: justify">Tomorrow we have games on again, after a 4 day break for the All Star action. Im going to give a quick rundown of the All Star weekend – including mock All Star starting 5’s for our league...
Throughout the NAB cup, we get a lot of data, some of it a lot more useful than others. One of our regulars here, Inkersaint, has put together this collection of tables which reviews the NAB scores so far against a players salary in order to determine the cost per point- Which really is one of the better stats in the pre-season. Were going to do this as a weekly thing, because these lightning scores are a little wacky - but well see what we can make of them.

Sitting as the king of the hill is none other than Hawk rookie Tom Schneider. Coming in as the only player priced at less that $1000 per point- his dual position eligibility would have made him a high priority on many watchlists. The caveat- IF he can make it onto the senior list. Hes obviously throwing down and making the claim- but hell need to continue to impress. That said, if he gets promoted through the year, he could be an excellent downgrade option.

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Richmonds Jake Batchelor came in as the best value defender at 1068. With previous successes in Richmond picks coming in the form of Andrew Raines and Relton Roberts, Id be tempted to watch closely before I jump in. But when you look at the key differences a) He doesnt appear to be made of glass, and b) he goes alright with the footy, then you simply have to add this kid to your watchlist. Hes a tall attacking half-back flanker who averaged 21 touches though the TAC cup this year. While sure, Richmond had a lot of outs- he certainly didnt do himself any harm.

Behind Schneider in the midfield was Sydneys Craig Bird. That said, he played, and starred in one game in a line up who smashed the young GWS side by 79 points in only 40 minutes of football.

In the rucks, we see a second Richmond player topping the list, this time its mature aged Tom Derickx, who really does have a spectacular name. He got himself to the top of this list through his stand up performance against the Pies. Though he did go missing against the Blues, he cant...
Hi all,

Thought I would post a quick thread for everyone to discuss the current weeks fixtures and each club injury lists (and how this affects your SuperCoach team).

The big issue currently facing all Super Coaches out there is the fact that Petrie has been suspended for Round 1; coupled with a bye in Round 3 means he shouldnt/wont figure in many teams plans now...or will he???

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Adelaide
(practice match v Fremantle at Thebarton, Saturday)
James Craig (hamstring) - TBC
David Mackay (groin) - test
Sam Shaw (back) - 1 week
Nathan van Berlo (hamstring) - 1 week
Bernie Vince (knee) - 1 week
Will Young (shoulder) - test

Brisbane Lions
(practice match v Western Bulldogs at Visy Park, Saturday)
Callum Bartlett (knee) - indefinite
Jamie Charman (achilles) - indefinite
Xavier Clarke (knee) - indefinite
Josh Drummond (hip) - 3 weeks
Pearce Hanley (ankle) - 2 weeks
James Polkinghorne (hernia) - 1 week
Jack Redden (hand) - 2 weeks

Carlton
(practice match v GWS at Manuka Oval, Saturday)
Lachie Henderson (hip) - 2-3 weeks
Matthew Kreuzer (knee) - 6 weeks
Luke Mitchell (shoulder) - 4 weeks

Collingwood
(NAB Cup quarter-final v Sydney at Etihad Stadium, Friday)
Nathan Brown (knee) - season
John Ceglar (knee) - 2-3 weeks
Brad Dick (shoulder) - 1 week
Alan Didak (shoulder) - 1 week
Tyson Goldsack (virus) - 1 week
Josh Thomas (foot) - 4-6 weeks

Essendon
(NAB Cup quarter-final v Melbourne at Etihad Stadium, Thursday)
Darcy Daniher (groin) - TBA
David Hille (knee) - 3 weeks
Nathan Lovett-Murray (calf) - 1 week
Tayte Pears (foot) - TBA
Kyle Reimers (thigh) - TBA
Michael Ross (hip) - TBA
Ariel Steinberg (knee) - 2-3 weeks
Andrew Welsh (abdominal) - 1 week

Fremantle
(practice match v Adelaide at Thebarton, Saturday)
Hayden Ballantyne (foot) - 2 weeks
Michael Barlow (broken leg) - TBA
Matthew de Boer...
Ive been promising this for a while, and because its so meaty I decided to break it down into a few chunks, so that people can digest and understand each bit before taking on the next.  And theres a few weeks of NAB Cup to analyse, and I need all the time I can get to develop the list of ins and outs for 2011.

What I thought everyone here would benefit from is to know how the list has changed over time, because its that transition of players values, like father time, that stops for no player.

First, a definition of a premium: 100 points per game average in a season.
Second, a definition of elite: 120 points per game average in a season.

Now without further ado, I will list the premiums list from 2010, and how its changed from 2009, 2008 and 2007.  From there I will draw some conclusions.  Join me by clicking the link and heading over the break...

<!--more-->So, heres the listing of 2010 Premiums and Elites (E) by position (Note all positions listed are 2011 positions)
Mid-Def - Goddard (E), Gibbs, Deledio
Mid-Fwd - Chapman, Didak, Harvey, Pavlich
Ruck - Sandilands
Mid - Ablett (E), Swan (E), Judd, Selwood, Hodge, Barlow, Montagna, Cross, Dal Santo, Murphy, Pendlebury, Priddis, Watson, Boyd, A Swallow, Hayes, Tuck, K Cornes, Bartel, J Bolton, Burgoyne, Simpson, Jack
Fwd - N Riewoldt, Franklin
Def - Lake, Bruce, Johncock

No real surprises here.  These were the stars of 2010, no question.
From 2009, here are the changes:
Became Elite: Goddard
Lost Elite: Montagna
Became Premium (first time): Barlow, A Swallow, Johncock, Simpson, Jack
Became Premium (re-entry): Hodge, Franklin,Tuck, Harvey, Burgoyne (last premium in 2009), Lake, Bruce, K Cornes (2008)
Lost Premium in 2010:  Goodes, Davis, Sewell, Cox, OKeefe, Mitchell, Corey, Drummond, Bock

2008 Premiums compared with 2009/2010:
Became Elite: Swan (2009/10), Montagna (2009), Goddard (2010)
Lost Elite: No one - Ablett the only Elite in 2008
Became Premium: Goddard, Pendlebury,...
Yep, two reviews in one, just to mess with Terrys head. Well, that and a complete lack of time over this weekend.

It looks like the Gold Coast have had a pretty good welcome to the league. I reckon Swallow, Harris, Toy, Coad and Matera will be in just about every squad now.

That said, I still havent watched the games- Ill try to watch them later tonight.

Then Ill get my footnotes for each game up.

Until then though, enjoy the stats. (as always, they are in DT.)

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Greater Western Sydney.
PlayerGamesTotalAverageAdjusted Total

Jonathan Giles2582958

Alex Carey24723.547

Dylan Shiel2462346

Damian Williams2422142

Gerald Ugle23919.539

Jack Hombsch2381938

Anthony Miles23718.537

Marcus Crook23517.535

Stephen Clifton23517.535

Curtly Hampton2341734

Jeremy Cameron2341734

Mitchell Daniher2341734

Isiah Stevens2321632

Simon Tunbridge23115.531

Sam Darley2281428

Tim Barton22713.527

Josh Bruce2261326

Kurt Aylett22512.525

Jimmi Savage22311.523

Rohan Bates1111122

Tomas Bugg22110.521

Jarrod Harding2199.519

Jacob Townsend17714

Andrew Phillips2115.511

Rhys Cooyou210510

Adam Flagg2848

Joshua Growden1448

Ben Hughes1224


Sydney.
PlayerGamesTotalAverageAdjusted Total

Craig Bird16363126

Josh P. Kennedy210854108

Jarrad McVeigh27537.575

Daniel Hannebery2723672

Mark Seaby2703570

Adam Goodes2683468

Kieren Jack26331.563

Byron Sumner25728.557

Jude Bolton1282856

Jarred Moore2502550

Lewis Jetta2502550

Nick Malceski2482448

Ben McGlynn1232346

Andrejs Everitt24522.545

Brett Meredith2402040

Lewis Johnston23517.535

Ted Richards23517.535

Martin Mattner2341734

Sam Reid1141428

Gary Rohan2261326

Rhyce Shaw22512.525

Trent Dennis-Lane22512.525

Luke Parker2199.519

Paul Bevan2199.519

Jed Lamb2178.517

Mike Pyke2157.515

Daniel Currie2136.513

Dylan McNeil2115.511


Gold Coast.
PlayerGamesTotalAverageAdjusted...
So, week two of the Lightning round and the biggest thing we learnt- If the trend continues, Brisbane is in for a very long season. And the Bombers are due for a finals birth.

Of course, we all know that its the pre-season and that it doesnt overly apply to the season as a whole. No, we dont know that Brisbane is in trouble, and no, Essendon arent due for a finals birth but if were lucky- we can get a glimpse into how teams are gunna roll next year.

That said, Im really looking forward to seeing how the GC go tonight.

As for the below stats, they are all in DreamTeam as again, the SuperCoach ones just seem so out of wack with only half a game.
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Brisbane.
PlayerGamesTotalAverageAdjusted Total

Daniel Rich28341.583

Tom Rockliff2703570

Todd Banfield26733.567

Rohan Bewick2542754

Daniel Merrett1262652

Joel Patfull1262652

Ryan Harwood24723.547

Broc McCauley2462346

Mitchell Golby24321.543

Andrew Raines24120.541

Aaron Cornelius1202040

Matthew Leuenberger1191938

Ashley McGrath1181836

Matt Maguire2361836

James Hawksley23517.535

Jared Polec23517.535

Sam Sheldon23517.535

Claye Beams2321632

Cheynee Stiller2301530

Brent Staker2281428

Patrick Karnezis2241224

Ryan Lester2241224

Amon Buchanan1111122

Bryce Retzlaff22110.521

Jesse OBrien2201020

Tom Collier218918

Joshua Green2178.517

Matt Austin2136.513

Mitchell Clark2136.513


- So, there wasnt too much to take out of the games for the Lions, what I can say though is that Jared Polec looked solid against the Bombers, being one of the only Lions to stand up. Only collected two touches against the Saints, but with the Lions midfield in such disarray, Voss surely has to play the kid as much as possible.
- Rohan Bewick, mature aged runner from the WAFL who came to the Lions as part of the Brennan trade, looked pretty good tonight, got a little bit of the ball, but his disposal certainly let him down a bit....
So its time for a new article with a new weekend of rookies to watch in the NAB Cup.

Im looking forward to the games on offer, and hoping that we see some quality on FTA not being a Foxtel subscriber.

Unfortunately, all there is on FTA is tonight, but with the Dons-Saints-Lions in action, its time to "go the Doctor" and hope Hibberd is going to be the answer to our teams MPP and finance structures.   Well priced, if theres even a hint that he is well in James Hirds plans then he will be in each team quicker than a seagull eats a chip.

Other interesting points would be whether we see any of Bomber Thompson in the Dons structure, whether the Saints are still the Bombers b.tch, and if the Lions are going to give us anything other than a possible wooden spoon from 2011.
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Foxtel subscribers get the enjoyment of not just investing in Uncle Ruperts retirement, but also of course the intriguing series between the Swans-Suns-Giants.  Giants and Suns have been told by their respective coaches that age and experience means nothing, and to go out and play football.   Needless to say the Swans are clear-cut favourites.

Points of interest from that series:  Where will Goodes play, has Hunt improved, is it one year too soon for GWS to be playing - lots of legitimate questions.   One thing to keep in mind is not to underestimate that there could be a young star wearing Red and White this year like Hannebery.   Dont fall over yourselves in drool over the GC players when there could be others worth your attention.

Final game in the series is on Sunday on Fox.  Its the Kardinia Park twilight series.   As if to show the Cricket Australia board that you can play matches there between 3 and 7, thats when the AFL equivalent of 20-20 is going to take centre stage.

Interesting points would have to be the battle of the twins, probably the first time twins have coached against one another in the big league.  One with a side predicted to be on the...
Here ya go Terry.

Heppell, Hibberd, Howlett, Hurley

Love the fact that some bombers are finally attracting some attention!

Chuck all your pre-game chat in here.

Theres a good chance that tonights post game reviews might be a little slurry.

Well, either that, or done with a sore head. One of the two.

*drink responsibly.
Howdy every, looks like we got a couple of new features pushed up tonight.

The first of those is the ability to upload your team into TooSerious. To take advantage of this, firstly youll need to be logged in. Once youre in, head over to your <a href="http://tooserious.net/profile">profile[/url]. Once youre there, head down to "my team". From here, you can add a new team to the list. Make sure you enter a name for your team and select a colour for this list. This colour will be used throughout the site whenever theres a reference to this team.
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Once youve saved your team, when you go back into it, youll now have the ability to upload your team. Simply enter in your Supercoach/Dreamteam login and hit upload. (You can save your login details so that you dont need to constantly type it in- however the internet safety concious amongst you might not want to save it.)

This will pull your team straight into TooSerious and update your TS team name to match whats been uploaded. Now when you go to the stats page, youll find your team selected. More importantly, your team will now be plugged into the new ticker.

To access the ticker, simply click on the new <a href="http://tooserious.net/ticker.php">Ticker[/url] link in the menu. Your team will now be fed into the ticker so that you can see exactly how things are going to work out. For example, round 16- prior to tonight, I wasnt overly concerned about my backline- now however, I can see that Im dancing a fine line to catch a bye donut on that round. The ticker will also display your players 3 game average against the team they are coming up against.

So jump in there, take a look. Hopefully it works alright!

Also, you might notice that we now have a Brownlow count on the player profile page. While it only goes back 3 years, it plays an integral part in some of the new functionality thats coming up. Hopefully it wont take too long to develop.