ORFFL 2016 PSD: IN HERE!

Discussion in 'ORFFL' started by HörnsySechsZeit, Feb 8, 2016.

By HörnsySechsZeit on Feb 8, 2016 at 12:45 PM
  1. HörnsySechsZeit

    HörnsySechsZeit Jarhead Staff Member

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    Okay so this is essentially a bastardisation of P_L's thread. I couldn't work out how to promote it to a featured article. And the main page is where the ORFFL belongs. Damnit, that's where 3n4nsy belongs.

    Putting all that aside, here are the dates for the upcoming trade, delistments, draft, trade periods:

    2016 Pre-Pre-SeasonDraft Trade Period - Now - Feb 26th 9pm AEDT
    2016 Pre-Season Delistment Deadline (lists at no more than 20 player) - Feb 27th 9pm AEDT
    2016 Pre-Season Draft - Feb 29th 0:00AM (or earlier the night of the 28th if you want)
    2016 Post-Pre-Season Draft Trade Period - End of draft - 23rd March 9pm AEDT
    Rules
    ...we should all know them by now but erm, here: http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/orffl-official-rules-tread-misc.32689/

    2016 Pre-Season Draft Order

    Draft Picks Per Team
    Poowong Potoroos: 19, 49, 37, 55, 73, 91
    Tarwin Lower Pigs: 2, 20, 38, 56, 74, 92
    Queenstown Quolls: 3, 39, 57, 59, 75, 93
    Jimcumbilly Jackrabbits: 4, 18, 22, 46, 76, 94
    Bonnie Doon Bandits: 5, 21, 23, 62, 77, 95
    Woy Woy Wizards: 6, 24, 42, 60, 78, 96
    Glenrowan Gunslingers: 7, 25, 43, 61, 79, 97
    Popanyinning Pyrite: 8, 10, 14, 41, 44, 98
    Bundalong Bullfrogs: 9, 27, 45, 63, 81, 99
    Warburton Wanderers: 12, 26, 28, 32, 36, 40, 54
    Purnululu Bungle Rangers: 11, 29, 47, 65, 83, 101
    Milikapati Snakes: 30, 48, 66, 84, 85, 102
    Mount Buggery Disappointments: 1,13, 31, 67, 103, 118
    Mallacoota Magicians: 58, 64, 68, 82, 86, 104
    Coulta Couldabeen: 15, 33, 51, 69, 87, 105
    Smiths Beach Seagulls: 16, 34, 52, 70, 88, 106
    Humpty Doo Hammerheads: 17, 35, 53, 71, 89, 107
    Sarah Island Savages: 50, 72, 80, 90, 100, 108


    Trades Affecting Draft
    *Pre MSD*
    1.     Sarah Island trade Darcy Lang, their R1 MSD pick (P18) and their R1 2016 PSD pick
    to
    Jimcumbilly for Matthew Boyd, their R3 MSD Pick (P41), and their R4 2016 PSD Pick.

    2. Milikipati trade Grant Birchall and 2016 R1 PSD selection
    to
    Mt Buggery for Steele Sidebottom and 2016 Rd5 PSD selection.

    3. Mallacoota trade Lee Spurr and R1 2016 PSD pick
    to
    Jimcumbilly for Nick Dal Santo and R3 2016 PSD pick.

    4. Mallacoota trade their R3 2016 PSD pick (MAL pick)
    to
    Sarah Island for their R4 2016 PSD pick (JIM pick) and Will Schofield.

    5. Mallacoota trade Hayden Crozier + 2R PSD + 3R PSD (JIM's pick)
    to
    Warburton's Bernie Vince + 4R PSD + 5R PSD

    6. Popanyinnng trade Jarryd Blair, POP R2 PSD pick, POP R5 PSD pick to
    to
    Warburton for WAR R1 PSD pick and WAR R3 PSD pick

    7. Queenstown trades Jack Grimes, 2nd round 2016 PSD pick and 1st round 2015 MSD pick (pick #6)
    to
    Bonnie Doon for Scott Thompson and 4th round 2016 PSD pick

    8. Popanyinninng trade Tom Langdon, POP R4 PSD pick
    to
    Bonnie Doon for Troy Menzel, P21 MSD pick, BDB R3 PSD pick

    *Post MSD*
    1.     Sarah Island trade Ayce Cordy and their R2 and R3 2016 PSD picks
    to
    Warburton for Brent Harvey and their R5 (POP) and R6 2016 PSD picks.

    2. Warburton trade Liam Picken and their R7 2016 PSD pick
    to
    Mt Buggery for Tom Lonergan and their R1 (MIL) 2016 PSD pick

    3. Jimcumbilly trade Jimmy Toumpas and their R1 (MAL) 2016 PSD pick
    to
    Popanyinning for Daniel Rich and their R3 (WAR) 2016 PSD pick

    *Pre-Season*
    1.     Mallacoota trade Kyle Cheney
    to
    Sarah Island for Ryan Lester
    2. Sarah Island trade Brendan Goddard
    to
    Purnululu Bungle Rangers for Zac Merrett
    3. Mount Buggery trade Billy Longer and 2016 PSD P49
    to
    Poowong for 2016 PSD P1


    Will add anything else as if we need it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2016
    HörnsySechsZeit, Feb 8, 2016
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?

If an auto-pick should occur, who should that player be?

  1. Jobe

    8 vote(s)
    80.0%

  2. Jaensch

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. Giles

    1 vote(s)
    10.0%

  4. TUTT!

    1 vote(s)
    10.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.

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Discussion in 'ORFFL' started by HörnsySechsZeit, Feb 8, 2016.

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    1. port_leschenault
      port_leschenault
      David Myers http://tooserious.net/forum/player_career.php?id=162&pcid=37448&name=David Myers
      Seee 2015 stats - 2 game 39avg
      Stats page filter to search for Myers in 2015 - http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.p...&up_code=&tsLeagueTeamId=#LGFYI4HsvQCvqGZ9.97
      All you get is 2014 stats for him. 17 games 85 average. Noticed it because of what's listed in the google sheet above.

      Actually, seems to be all players? When filter by season you get the season before stats. Look at the players and scores - this isn't 2015 info: http://tooserious.net/forum/stats.p...lary=0&sort=ave&desc=desc#IK1lL53FKhjldfiG.97
      port_leschenault, Mar 8, 2016
      #341
    2. port_leschenault
      port_leschenault
      Why would we be including suspended or retired players in that? Seems a bit extreme

      @Bearfly if we do 5 picks/day from here on out we should make it before round 1 starts.
      port_leschenault, Mar 8, 2016
      #342
    3. Bearfly
      Bearfly
      Apologies for being too busy working my arse off on an assignment that I need to have done and submitted before Easter - and considering I need to try and have Nicky in Melbourne for an appointment on the 22nd, it's an even more pressing deadline and completely doing my head in!!!
      Bearfly, Mar 8, 2016
      #343
    4. thokash
      thokash
      Well, it is legal to draft Jobe Watson, and he does have the highest 2015 average, so...

      I agree that Jaensch should not be included though, he is not on an AFL list.
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      thokash, Mar 8, 2016
      #344
    5. HörnsySechsZeit
      HörnsySechsZeit
      Sorry, was out with errrr commitments.

      It's definitely Jobe FTR. Seems fitting also.
      HörnsySechsZeit, Mar 8, 2016
      #345
    6. walesy
      walesy
      It's cause you have Round 0 selected (which is the preseason)

      Might need to put in a tweak where changing the year backwards moves it to the latest round or something
      walesy, Mar 8, 2016
      #346
    7. port_leschenault
      port_leschenault
      Well I don't think suspended players should be available to be auto picked. The clue is in the suspended part.

      Thanks, so that's what was going wrong. Same thing must've been done on the orffl sheet embedded with those players because Watson average should be listed as 92 and Myers 39.
      port_leschenault, Mar 8, 2016
      #347
    8. stripey
      stripey
      It seems there is a poll for every occasion! ;)
      stripey, Mar 8, 2016
      #348
    9. HörnsySechsZeit
      HörnsySechsZeit
      EFA.
      HörnsySechsZeit, Mar 8, 2016
      #349
    10. stripey
      stripey
      It seems the votes are less than anonymous! I don't personally care either way... Giles might not see much more game time than Jobe anyway...
      Last edited: Mar 8, 2016
      stripey, Mar 8, 2016
      #350
    11. HörnsySechsZeit
      HörnsySechsZeit
      Simple deduction my dear Watson.
      HörnsySechsZeit, Mar 8, 2016
      #351
    12. Johnson
      Johnson
      If Ryder was available for selection, and other suspended players were to be kept as a part of a teams 26 ( i.e. no tops allowed), then I would have thought it obvious the auto pick be Watson.
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      Johnson, Mar 9, 2016
      #352
    13. Jason
      Jason
      Good detective work.

      Embedded spreadsheet has been edited. Ryder's average for 2015 was 85, rather than the previously advertised 2014 average of 101. All remaining banned players are now updated.
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      Jason, Mar 9, 2016
      #353
    14. Jason
      Jason
      Jason, Mar 9, 2016
      #354
    15. port_leschenault
      port_leschenault
      Except an autopick isn't a choice. You choose to select a Bomber player that is a FA, you choose to keep them in your team as part of the 26. Jaensch, Cavka and any of the 17 that are FA (edit - Collingwood duo too) shouldn't be included in an autopick since they're not available to play this season. Regardless of how much game time they get Giles, Smith, Waite are. I'd have thought the distinction obvious
      Last edited: Mar 9, 2016
      port_leschenault, Mar 9, 2016
      #355
    16. Johnson
      Johnson
      It is a choice - you have chosen not to attend to the draft, for whatever reason, and thus you receive the player listed as a FA with the highest average from the previous year. By choosing not to do something, you are still choosing.
      Johnson, Mar 9, 2016
      #356
    17. Kel
      Kel
      6. DRAFT

      (a)       The Pre-Season Draft will commence whenever someone says it will commence. Seriously it changes every year, but it's usually some time in March.
      (b) 24 hour time limit on picks. If you don't pick within time you will be given the highest ranked player on the previous year's averages.
      (c)       Teams must continue to draft until their lists are at 26 players.
      (d) Teams must stop drafting when their lists are at 26 players.
      (e) You cannot draft Martin or Hogan yet. No baggsies. (THIS RULE IS NO LONGER RELEVANT)
      (f) Mid Season Draft will happen in the last Bye Week (R13). Draft will run in reverse ladder order as of the end of R10.
      (g) Mid Season Draft is not compulsory to participate in.
      (h) There is no salary cap. SC dollars do not exist in this universe.
      Read more at http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/orffl-official-rules-tread-misc.32689/#GDdo2EqUQrXdStCa.99

      The above is copied from the rules thread. Pretty clear to me that you will be given the highest ranked player from the previous year, which in this case is Jobe Watson. His suspension for 2016 is irrelevant.
      Kel, Mar 9, 2016
      #357
    18. port_leschenault
      port_leschenault
      You're conflating the issue. Why they're getting an autopick has nothing to do with what the autopick should be.That they should receive the highest average FA from last season is not the issue, them not receiving a player that's suspended or retired is

      Well we've already gone over before that the "rules" shouldn't be followed blindly so that renders that moot and it's straightforward that certain circumstances can't be addressed when they come up.

      Back in the halcyon days of 2012 there was no making these rules with the potential for players being banned (Bombers/Magpies) or high-average players spontaneously retiring during pre-season (Jaensch) in mind so trying to hide behind that is disingenuous.

      The circumstances has come up now, it should be addressed because forcing a player on someone that can't play at all is wrong. Doesn't matter if it is Jobe or not, they are suspended. That means they can't play. That means you're forcing on a team a player that can't play for no good reason.
      port_leschenault, Mar 9, 2016
      #358
    19. walesy
      walesy
      Personally, I'm happy with the Bombers boys being available- heck, might even snag Jobe next pick.

      Jaensh though, and other retirees I reckon should be exempt.
      walesy, Mar 9, 2016
      #359
    20. Jason
      Jason
      Isn't the onus on everyone to participate in the PSD in a timely manner? Of course it is. Holding up the process shouldn't in my view be cushioned by any special consideration. The existing rule is simple and clear and yes sometimes it is going to dish up a player who has more cons than pros.

      Why should we modify the rules just because the highest averaging free agent happens to be suspended? Would we be discussing potential alterations to the rules if the highest averaging free agent did his ACL in the off-season? I think the answer to the second question is no, which is why I also think this approach should be applied to suspended players.
      Jason, Mar 9, 2016
      #360
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