ORFFW Keeper League Rules (up for discussion)

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Should we add an additional keeper with or without concessions

  1. Add keeper to 15 and apply concessions

    8 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Add keeper to 15 and no concessions

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. Retain league as is with 14 keepers

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    0.0%
  1. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    FreoDockers Administrator

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    Hey @Chloe and @Peter W - we would love to get your vote!
    Please jump on and vote as soon as you can
     
  3. Peter W

    Peter W Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I've voted now, 15 with concessions thanks.
     
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  4. Chloe

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    Voted!
     
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  5. Len

    Len Junee Knightrider Staff Member

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    I'd like to propose the following for next year;
    1. List size expanded to 24
    2 Keepers expanded to 18
    3 Rolling lockout per below
    - Thursday players in FW lineups to be named by start of play Thursday
    - Friday players in FW lineups to be finalised by start of play Friday
    - Rest of round players to be finalised by start of play Saturday

    All three points are to help folks name full teams, to reduce the gap between top and bottom teams, and most importantly ease the path to full participation.
     
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  6. Len

    Len Junee Knightrider Staff Member

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    At the risk of being too radical, I wouldn't mind seeing the trading of players and picks enabled outside of season.
     
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  7. Len

    Len Junee Knightrider Staff Member

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    ver_redit_optatum Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Len. I like the ideas but I'm not sure if they'll narrow the gap or not.

    List size expansion makes sense now that so many more AFLW players are available. You get more injury coverage, more ability to roll the dice on someone who might have a breakout year and to wait on young players.

    But more keepers means I don't have to delist any of my good players, and if it had applied in previous years there are other players I might still own, like Rylie Wotherspoon was a reluctant delist who is now having a strong year. Cynthia Hamilton, Emily Everist and Vikki Wall were also Galahs in their first year. Of course I don't remember who I picked up from other people...

    Rolling lockouts I'm neutral on. I would be slightly disadvantaged overseas but that's ok :D But I don't know if other people prefer being more hands off or not.
     
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  9. Len

    Len Junee Knightrider Staff Member

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    Cheers :)
    List expansion I see as a must, for the reasons you state, coaches who can't name a full team week to week tend to be the first to drop interest levels.

    More keepers means the coaches picking at the top end of the draft in particular will have more time to wait before being forced to delist, something I know has stung most of us, with increased lists it's effectively only one less to cut.

    The rolling lockouts are centred on rounds with Thursday games and Friday games starting early for those who have a good proportion of their squad's status not known, or not confirmed, beyond that I'm ambivalent. To be honest I spend so much time away from access due to health/travel/life that I would benefit from the extra time to name a squad, but that's just me. Noting that list size increase may make that less of an issue.

    The other one which would help us all (I think?) is interteam trading of players and possibly picks in the pre-season window.

    I am confident we will get some polls up during the AFLW finals, and hopefull we see more input like yours :)
     
  10. Peter W

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    100%. It's something I love when it comes to these kinds of games. Give longer time to think about it, less stress to push something through, more options if injuries occur post-draft. I think there would have to still be a window, but make it say a few months at least where coaches can post trades. Of course in this game it's smaller lists (so therefore less to trade) but I think it would provide some activity in the off-season.

    I'd love to see the lists extended eventually to resembling AFLW list sizes and naming 16-a-side/5-bench teams. Really immerse in the game as if you're a real life full AFLW coach with the same squad at your finger tips. Of course it requires extra involvement from players, but for me that would be a great place to get to IMHO.
     
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  11. Len

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    Absolutely :)
     

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