I agree with Ant here. By averages they were still in the top 8 players from last season so should be fine. There's been only two games of the entire season so we shouldn't overreact as a result. I liked the old scoring system and voted for it to stay but unfortunately it didn't go that way. But let's get a decent sample on games before we call this a failure just yet. It's just different with lower scores.

I find the new ESPN site frustratingly bad!
With the new scoring - yes it is way different from what we are used to. It doesn’t seem fair though that everyone pipes up now and says if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
I’m very greatful for all the time Anthak has put in to tweak it so let’s give it a bit more time to get used too.
I watched both games yesterday and it’s not just high volume shooters that will suffer, Embiid and Horford both had pretty good games but didn’t get huge scores.
Let’s give it more time before we put Ant up on a crucifix

I'm sure all the top guys will be fine overall, hopefully we dug deep enough with the analysis and the lower ranked guys aren't taking too much of a hit or producing weird results.

9 PTS, 4/7 FG, 0/1 FT, 4 REB (0 OREB), 2 AST, 5 BLK, 3 TO = 19 FPTS
12 PTS, 6/7, 0/0 FT, 3 REB (2 OREB), 2 AST, 3 BLK, 2 TO = 27 FPTS

I dunno, felt weird watching most of both games, seeing what these two players contributed and then comparing their fantasy scores. Maybe we went a bit hard on missed shots? Happy to ride with it for now, only been 2 games.

As for the website... sheeeeeeeesh

A lot of interesting banter on the forum. We'll see how the season plays out....

Goes to show the First Rule of NBA fantasy draft day: know the scoring system
The Second Rule of NBA fantasy draft day: know the scoring system

There were always going to be market inefficiencies with the new scoring system. And unfortunately for those auto-drafting, the ESPN pre-ranks and projections didn't align with our new scoring system.

I went into the draft with the new system & my projections and drafted accordingly...it wouldn't be appropriate to change the scoring system part-way through the season.

I think with the potential of bad games bringing negatives, it really adds some extra fun into it. What if your gun shooter is in a slump? Do you decide to bench him rather than play him and risk a negative score?

What if you've got a player going up against an elite defence (team or player), that forces guys into sub-40% shooting and high turnovers? Do you bench him or hope that he can do enough with other facets of the game if he's gonna be forced into tough shots?

These are much more fun dilemmas than just looking to see whose got a game that day and expecting points to be added. It also may decrease the efficacy of the strategy that I know I've used heaps in previous seasons of maximising games played by cycling through all weekly acquisitions streaming an active player for one of the spots - you could end up getting a negative score from the guy you bring in instead of just adding points. Some more interesting strategies involved, that's for sure.

Interesting point for comparison, @stowie. I suppose the way I see it, player 1 uses 10 possessions (7 FGA & 3 TO) for 9 points scored (below average). Player 2 uses 9 possessions for 12 points scored (above average). Player 1 additionally facilitates 2 baskets, forces 5 FG misses for the opponents (BLK) and ends a defensive stand 4 times (DREB). Player 2 does the same with assists, forces 3 FG misses and ends just one defensive stand, but also keeps alive a possession twice (OREB). I did argue against the FT Miss score, as Player 1 missed an And-1 so still scored on that possession, but I do think Player 2 has a clearly more efficient game. Whether it's 40% better is debatable.

Just watched Bucks game and as an owner of Bledsoe and Giannis was shocked to see they got the same fantasy score of 25.
Fair enough Giannis almost quad doubled with turnovers but was still surprised.
I know we made 10 small changes to the scoring system but am wondering people’s opinion on which change is most responsible for the lower scores? Is it the -2 for for field goals missed? Or purely a combination of making so many changes?
Like someone said above it’s gonna be hard to stream the waiver wire this year! (Which might be a good thing)

Shooting percentages seem to play a big role. Most poor scores have been tied to that. But I think the loss of points for 3 pointers, steals and blocks is having a big impact also.

How do you sort the daily leaders?
Struggling to find it
Keeps reverting to the espn draft ranking order even when I click to sort by points.

Righteo who is responsible for screwing up fantasy scoring? Put ya hands up? Dont tell me its more accurate or fairer or any other spin. Its about fun and the fun has been taken out of it. Players scoring negative numbers and score single digits when posting a tripple double. Common guys be serious......

If a stud goes down your season is over because if you trade in multiple players to try make up the numbers you have no chance as they lucky to score double digits.

Having the same issue! I don't think it can be done. Bloody strange

Lebron and Javale Mcgee have the same fantasy points with one minute left, haha! I know what i'm voting for at seasons end!