Bearfly wrote: choppers wrote: I had Wines and brought Lucas in as I think Wines might be strong candidate for the vest pretty often, whereas I think Lucas is in their best 22. Murdoch is with St.Kilda, but I'm open to suggestions there. Re: the rucks, my hope is for Naitanui to be out for about 4-5 rds and bring him in then for Leuey so I won't need Rowe. But lots of things can happen before next week. And I know what you mean about Parker last year. Strongly suggest you rethink you're view on Wines Choppers - there are several other more likely candidates for the kermit vest this year and can assure you that the coaches are pretty keen to throw the young fella into the midfield early. Wingard suffered multiple vestings in 2012 (green & red) mainly due to the simple fact the coach didn't know what he was doing half the time. Hinkley is all about the team playing attacking, hard at it, contested footy, and Ollie has been showing those qualities in spades through the pre-season. More likely kermit vest candidates would be Wingard, Stevenson, Heath, Young, Mitchell, Neade Sorry about the slow reply Bear, but I've been without the Internet for 4 days. Have taken your advice about Wines, and Lucas has gone. Now, I need to decide between Wines and Koby.