2016 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'ORFFU' started by Tylo, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. bryzza

    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    yeah im constantly reading all the threads and updates football 24/7 .........count down to draft day
     
  2. bryzza

    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    Now we know the which kids have been drafted time to work out who can add value to my team. Bring on our draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. bryzza

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    Fanfooty website has there fanplanner available to select you supercoach team for next year, good news is there are the updated positions but of course not confirmed but gives you a good idea of where your players may end up,

    Big news is fanfooty has Micheal Barlow as M/F.
     
  4. bryzza

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    choppers tyre and damo your not leaving us for ORFFF?
     
  5. bryzza

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    Position changes for Vikings

    Biggs mid to def
    Saleem for to def
    Krakouer m/f to def
    Sam Mayes m/d to def

    T.Mitchell m/f to mid
    Picken def to mid

    Gregson mid to for
    Heeney mid to for
    laverde m/f to for

    Howlett Petracca Robinson all keep there M/F status.


     
  6. bryzza

    bryzza Well-Known Member

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    martyg wrote:

    Well, I am completely screwed... following players have lost DPP

    Robbie Gray
    Danyle Pearce
    Jack Ziebell
    Hugh Goddard
    Dane Swan

    Trades anyone? :(

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    Sorry about Ziebell, looks like you have 10/11 midfielders to choose from
     
  7. bryzza

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    martyg wrote:
    bryzza wrote:
    martyg wrote:

    Well, I am completely screwed... following players have lost DPP

    Robbie Gray
    Danyle Pearce
    Jack Ziebell
    Hugh Goddard
    Dane Swan

    Trades anyone? :(

    </div>

    Sorry about Ziebell, looks like you have 10/11 midfielders to choose from </div>

    It's ok mate, looks like Laverde didn't hold up his end of the bargain either! </div>

    Actually I was hoping Laverde wouldn't lose forward status not fussed about mid as im sure he will venture further up the group once he builds up his tank
     
  8. Batfink

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    Yep, bring on the AFL draft.
     
  9. bryzza

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    Some burning issues I would like to raise while we still have active coaches on the forum. 1st. Squad sizes. I for one would like to advocate for our squad sizes to be increased by 2 players. I know this was raised at the beginning of the season but while we have some time I would like to thrash out the pro's and con's. Many coaches had teams decimated by injuries and I know winning has some luck involved but by increasing our squad teams would then be able to field a full squad, which in tern increases participation and competitiveness. 2nd. Preseason Player Pool List. I love researching players and finding a diamond in the rough. Having the list with games played and averages listed does make it to easy for those with top draft picks to be able to select the best available. For me this adds another dimension to our game and satisfaction just like a real recruiter. Thoughts ???
     
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    insider wrote:
    i like your second point Bryzza. im a big fan of reward for effort, so id support anything that makes it more of a challenge! Totally agree insider. Once everyone has had time to respond maybe we can put it to a vote. Do you think we need a new thread to have this conversation?
     
  11. JPK

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    bryzza wrote:
    Some burning issues I would like to raise while we still have active coaches on the forum. 1st. Squad sizes. I for one would like to advocate for our squad sizes to be increased by 2 players. I know this was raised at the beginning of the season but while we have some time I would like to thrash out the pro's and con's. Many coaches had teams decimated by injuries and I know winning has some luck involved but by increasing our squad teams would then be able to field a full squad, which in tern increases participation and competitiveness. 2nd. Preseason Player Pool List. I love researching players and finding a diamond in the rough. Having the list with games played and averages listed does make it to easy for those with top draft picks to be able to select the best available. For me this adds another dimension to our game and satisfaction just like a real recruiter. Thoughts ??? Way back when, I advocated for larger lists and even an LTI list. I'm now against the idea. We have an MSD to top up for injuries, and the rest is just luck. This is just my opinion though. I'm not sure I understand point 2. Are you saying we should have a player pool list or not? There was one floating around - its probably in the google email account. I'm sure we'll have one created soon enough if there isn't one already. If you want to start a new thread, go for it. There's no reason why you can't. ;-)
     
  12. martyg

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    I see both sides of the argument of not increasing our team lists. I did raise that I wanted more players but I think to have a robust league we should keep it the same. Last year I had Cam Ellis-Yolmen and Brandon Ellis, I decided to keep CEY and got rid of Ellis - worst call ever! but my bad luck was someone else's good fortune. I then also got rid of CEY to keep a spot for a 2015 rookie. What I do agree with is a LTI list. Just 1 I reckon and it must be done in either PSD or MSD and then you have to get your squad back to normal size at the end of the year. For example - Week 2 - Laverde breaks his leg and is out for the season. I put him on my LTI and in the MSD I can trade in an extra player. After the season, I have to de-list 1 player. This allows for the really shit luck a few coaches have had this year.
     
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    JPK wrote:
    bryzza wrote:
    Some burning issues I would like to raise while we still have active coaches on the forum. 1st. Squad sizes. I for one would like to advocate for our squad sizes to be increased by 2 players. I know this was raised at the beginning of the season but while we have some time I would like to thrash out the pro's and con's. Many coaches had teams decimated by injuries and I know winning has some luck involved but by increasing our squad teams would then be able to field a full squad, which in tern increases participation and competitiveness. 2nd. Preseason Player Pool List. I love researching players and finding a diamond in the rough. Having the list with games played and averages listed does make it to easy for those with top draft picks to be able to select the best available. For me this adds another dimension to our game and satisfaction just like a real recruiter. Thoughts ??? Way back when, I advocated for larger lists and even an LTI list. I'm now against the idea. We have an MSD to top up for injuries, and the rest is just luck. This is just my opinion though. I'm not sure I understand point 2. Are you saying we should have a player pool list or not? There was one floating around - its probably in the google email account. I'm sure we'll have one created soon enough if there isn't one already. If you want to start a new thread, go for it. There's no reason why you can't. ;-) JPK we do have a list that we all have access to but on that list it provides you with top scoring players so it takes out the 'reward for effort' that insider said for researching. Im all for having a list that tells us which players are available but that is all the list should provide us. For example miles or martin were the highest averaging players in last years pool, how many of us knew this before the list came out? Im advocating for player research which brings an added challenge.
     
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    bryzza wrote:
    Some burning issues I would like to raise while we still have active coaches on the forum. 1st. Squad sizes. I for one would like to advocate for our squad sizes to be increased by 2 players. I know this was raised at the beginning of the season but while we have some time I would like to thrash out the pro's and con's. Many coaches had teams decimated by injuries and I know winning has some luck involved but by increasing our squad teams would then be able to field a full squad, which in tern increases participation and competitiveness. 2nd. Preseason Player Pool List. I love researching players and finding a diamond in the rough. Having the list with games played and averages listed does make it to easy for those with top draft picks to be able to select the best available. For me this adds another dimension to our game and satisfaction just like a real recruiter. Thoughts ??? Last year EE raised the idea of bringing in mandatory delistments along with increasing squad sizes. I like this point of view, particularly because his logic was that every coach would delist one player for the pre season draft anyway without any change to the squad size of 26. While I'm not against increasing squad sizes to 28, I can only see myself voting for it if there was also a mandatory number of delistments each coach must make as a minimum at the end of each year...and I'd think 2 or 3 would sound about right.
     
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    fresh wrote:
    bryzza wrote:
    Some burning issues I would like to raise while we still have active coaches on the forum. 1st. Squad sizes. I for one would like to advocate for our squad sizes to be increased by 2 players. I know this was raised at the beginning of the season but while we have some time I would like to thrash out the pro's and con's. Many coaches had teams decimated by injuries and I know winning has some luck involved but by increasing our squad teams would then be able to field a full squad, which in tern increases participation and competitiveness. 2nd. Preseason Player Pool List. I love researching players and finding a diamond in the rough. Having the list with games played and averages listed does make it to easy for those with top draft picks to be able to select the best available. For me this adds another dimension to our game and satisfaction just like a real recruiter. Thoughts ??? Last year EE raised the idea of bringing in mandatory delistments along with increasing squad sizes. I like this point of view, particularly because his logic was that every coach would delist one player for the pre season draft anyway without any change to the squad size of 26. While I'm not against increasing squad sizes to 28, I can only see myself voting for it if there was also a mandatory number of delistments each coach must make as a minimum at the end of each year...and I'd think 2 or 3 would sound about right. Crocs , ill second that idea of mandatory delistments.
     
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    bryzza wrote:
    JPK wrote:
    bryzza wrote:
    Some burning issues I would like to raise while we still have active coaches on the forum. 1st. Squad sizes. I for one would like to advocate for our squad sizes to be increased by 2 players. I know this was raised at the beginning of the season but while we have some time I would like to thrash out the pro's and con's. Many coaches had teams decimated by injuries and I know winning has some luck involved but by increasing our squad teams would then be able to field a full squad, which in tern increases participation and competitiveness. 2nd. Preseason Player Pool List. I love researching players and finding a diamond in the rough. Having the list with games played and averages listed does make it to easy for those with top draft picks to be able to select the best available. For me this adds another dimension to our game and satisfaction just like a real recruiter. Thoughts ??? Way back when, I advocated for larger lists and even an LTI list. I'm now against the idea. We have an MSD to top up for injuries, and the rest is just luck. This is just my opinion though. I'm not sure I understand point 2. Are you saying we should have a player pool list or not? There was one floating around - its probably in the google email account. I'm sure we'll have one created soon enough if there isn't one already. If you want to start a new thread, go for it. There's no reason why you can't. ;-) JPK we do have a list that we all have access to but on that list it provides you with top scoring players so it takes out the 'reward for effort' that insider said for researching. Im all for having a list that tells us which players are available but that is all the list should provide us. For example miles or martin were the highest averaging players in last years pool, how many of us knew this before the list came out? Im advocating for player research which brings an added challenge. Now I follow. Fair call too.
     
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    bryzza wrote:
    fresh wrote:
    bryzza wrote:
    Some burning issues I would like to raise while we still have active coaches on the forum. 1st. Squad sizes. I for one would like to advocate for our squad sizes to be increased by 2 players. I know this was raised at the beginning of the season but while we have some time I would like to thrash out the pro's and con's. Many coaches had teams decimated by injuries and I know winning has some luck involved but by increasing our squad teams would then be able to field a full squad, which in tern increases participation and competitiveness. Thoughts ??? Last year EE raised the idea of bringing in mandatory delistments along with increasing squad sizes. I like this point of view, particularly because his logic was that every coach would delist one player for the pre season draft anyway without any change to the squad size of 26. While I'm not against increasing squad sizes to 28, I can only see myself voting for it if there was also a mandatory number of delistments each coach must make as a minimum at the end of each year...and I'd think 2 or 3 would sound about right. Crocs , ill second that idea of mandatory delistments. What does mandatory delistments actually add to the competition? Is it just to ensure player turnover?
     
  18. TheTassieHawk

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    pardon the interruption ORRU folks a further shout out to anyone who might be interested in joining a new ORFF comp if we get one started for 2016

    per the earlier blog we have PHIL, Illuminati, ViQBOz, Len, Anthak, Tyze1 and Bear. I am keen so that gives us 8.

    If we can get 2 more then we have enough for a 10 team comp which would be a reasonable number in my opinion, and would be a point of difference to the existing ORFF comps

    ORFFL. ORFFA, and ORFFU coaches are most welcome.

    if you are keen then please postin the earlier blog by AFL Grand Final Day

    http://tooserious.net/Blog/tabid/90/P...

    cheers TTH
     
  19. bryzza

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    If we increase squad size mandatory delistments would ensure we aren't just stock piling players, is that your intention sand gropers ?
     
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    eagle_eyed Training the house down!

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    bryzza wrote:
    If we increase squad size mandatory delistments would ensure we aren't just stock piling players, is that your intention sand gropers ? I think my reasoning was that mandatory delistments would add value to theavailable player pool, 18 by a minimum of 2 is 36 players. If we took 36 players out of the existing player pool there would bevery little to noexperienced players of any value available in this draft. The best way to do it would be to increase list sizes by 1 player then by everyone cutting players 26 & 27 as a minimum from their list there may at least be some experienced talent available. Or do we go full AFL and have a minimum of 3 list changes each season?So many questions! As I'm typing this I'm thinking MSD selections would lose a lot of currency as you'd expect most of the previously available players would now be on lists and interest in the draft would be minimal. I've probably talked myself around nowand feelthat the better option would be to stay at 26 players, the only drawback being the non-competitive matches where a squad is undermanned. I guess there is a lot more to it than just increasing squad sizes; we have to work out how many do we add, do we have mandatory delisting, if so how many do we delist, if it'sAFL likelist changes per year does trading count as a list change or do you have to go to the draft? I'm sure we can have some spirited discussion regarding this. The first step would be to find out just how many support additions to lists, if it is the minority it would save us a whole lot of debate.
     

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