2017 Round 3 Teams and Discussion

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By TheTassieHawk on Apr 6, 2017 at 11:49 PM
  1. TheTassieHawk

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    A fairly large set of fresh rookies are already named in the 18 or 22 for this weekend.

    J Dawson (123.9k FM, page 335 of the 2017 prospectus), Balic (123.9k FM, p134), Logue (180.3k D, p141), Berry (139.8k DM, p56), McLuggage (202.8k FM, p62), Durdin (123.9k F, p256), Parsons (117.3k F, p168), and T Smith (102.4k F, p248).

    With B Long (117.3k DF, p319), L Dawson (195.1k DF, p58), H McKay (123.9k F, p81), Williamson (117.3k D, p86) and J Stewart (169.8k F, p126) on the 7 man interchange there is potential for one or 2 of those to join them

    Jy Simpkin - edit and Ben Ainsworth - is out injured, while several rookies are also named on the 7 man bench including T Miles (F/M), Macreadie (D), Pickett (F/M), McGrath (D/M) and Barrett (M).

    Which means Preuss, Pickett, Eddy, Pickett, Bowes and Florent amongst others definitely have another run this weekend.

    Of the sub $200k rookies dropped after Round 1 Shoenmakers, Mountford and Hibberd failed to make the 25 for Round 3, while Foote returns for Sydney and Menzel is an emergency for the Crows.

    Hayward, N Newman, Burton, D Swallow and Broomhead are amongst the rookies who back up for their 2nd consecutive games.

    No D Cameron for the Swans (missing the 25) with Callum Sinclair picked to replace Tippett.

    I am not sure whether N Roo actually plays on Sunday, fingers crossed for those who held him.

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    Sydney Swans v Collingwood
    Friday April 7 at the SCG (7.50pm)

    SWANS
    B: N.Smith, A.Aliir, N.Newman
    HB: C.Mills, H.Grundy, H.Marsh
    C: Z.Jones, J.Kennedy, J.Lloyd
    HF: O.Florent, L.Franklin, L.Parker
    F: G.Hewett, S.Reid, W.Hayward
    FOL: S.Naismith, D.Hannebery, K.Jack
    I/C: J.Dawson, J.Foote, R.Fox, C.Sinclair
    EMG: H.Cunningham, S.Edwards, J.Laidler

    IN: C.Sinclair, J.Foote, J.Dawson
    OUT: K.Tippett, J.Laidler, H.Cunningham

    MAGPIES
    B: J.Howe, H.Schade, J.Ramsay
    HB: J.Smith, B.Reid, B.Maynard
    C: S.Sidebottom, S.Pendlebury, J.Crisp
    HF: T.Varcoe, J.White, T.Broomhead
    F: A.Fasolo, D.Moore, C.Mayne
    FOL: B.Grundy, A.Treloar, T.Adams
    I/C: T.Goldsack, L.Greenwood, T.Phillips, W.Hoskin-Elliott
    EMG: J.Blair, J.Aish, L.Dunn

    IN: T.Varcoe, L.Greenwood
    OUT: J.Blair, J.Aish

    North Melbourne v GWS Giants
    Saturday April 8 at Blundstone Arena (1.45pm)

    KANGAROOS
    B: M.Williams, R.Tarrant, L.McDonald
    HB: J.Macmillan, L.Hansen, A.Mullett
    C: T.Garner, B.Cunnington, S.Atley
    HF: N.Hrovat, M.Daw, T.Dumont
    F: L.Thomas, B.Brown, K.Turner
    FOL: T.Goldstein, J.Ziebell, S.Higgins
    I/C: A.Swallow, S.Durdin, B.Preuss, S.Gibson
    EMG: R.Clarke, E.Vickers-Willis, C.Wagner

    IN: T.Goldstein, S.Durdin
    OUT: S.Thompson, J.Simpkin

    GIANTS
    B: Z.Williams, P.Davis, M.Buntine
    HB: J.Kelly, A.Tomlinson, A.Kennedy
    C: H.Shaw, C.Ward, T.Greene
    HF: D.Smith, R.Lobb, S.Johnson
    F: R.Griffen, J.Cameron, T.Scully
    FOL: S.Mumford, D.Shiel, J.Hopper
    I/C: S.Reid, T.Taranto, N.Haynes, N.Wilson
    EMG: J.Patton, A.Corr, H.Perryman

    No changes

    Richmond v West Coast Eagles
    Saturday April 8 at the MCG (2.10pm)

    TIGERS
    B: A.Rance, D.Astbury, D.Grimes
    HB: R.Conca, B.Houli, B.Ellis
    C: K.McIntosh, D.Prestia, S.Grigg
    HF: D.Rioli, T.Elton, D.Butler
    F: D.Martin, J.Riewoldt, J.Castagna
    FOL: T.Nankervis, T.Cotchin, J.Caddy
    I/C: N.Vlastuin, B.Lennon, J.Short, K.Lambert
    EMG: J.Townsend, A.Miles, C.Menadue

    IN: T.Elton, K.McIntosh
    OUT: S.Edwards, B.Griffiths

    EAGLES
    B: S.Hurn, T.Barrass, S.Wellingham
    HB: J.Nelson, J.McGovern, E.Yeo
    C: M.Hutchings, M.Priddis, A.Gaff
    HF: M.LeCras, J.Darling, J.Redden
    F: N.Vardy, J.Kennedy, J.Hill
    FOL: J.Giles, L.Shuey, S.Mitchell
    I/C: B.Sheppard, C.Masten, J.Cripps, L.Jetta
    EMG: L.Duggan, S.Butler, W.Schofield

    IN: L.Jetta
    OUT: D.Sheed

    Geelong Cats v Melbourne
    Saturday April 8 at Etihad Stadium (4.35pm)

    CATS
    B: Z.Tuohy, T.Lonergan, A.Mackie
    HB: T.Stewart, L.Henderson, J.Thurlow
    C: M.Blicavs, J.Selwood, S.Menegola
    HF: J.Parsons, H.Taylor, B.Parfitt
    F: S.Motlop, T.Hawkins, D.Menzel
    FOL: Z.Smith, P.Dangerfield, C.Guthrie
    I/C: M.Duncan, L.McCarthy, J.Murdoch, T.Ruggles
    EMG: J.Bews, D.Lang, R.Stanley

    IN: Z.Smith, C.Guthrie, S.Menegola, J.Parsons
    OUT: R.Stanley, J.Cowan, G.Horlin-Smith, D.Lang

    DEMONS
    B: C.Salem, T.McDonald, J.Hunt
    HB: N.Jetta, O.McDonald, N.Jones
    C: B.Vince, D.Tyson, J.Harmes
    HF: M.Hannan, S.Weideman, A.Neal-Bullen
    F: J.Garlett, C.Petracca, T.Smith
    FOL: M.Gawn, C.Oliver, J.Viney
    I/C: J.Watts, B.Stretch, D.Kent, J.Melksham
    EMG: C.Pedersen, T.Bugg, J.Spencer

    IN: B.Vince, D.Kent, T.Smith
    OUT: J.Lewis, J.Hogan, A.Brayshaw

    Port Adelaide v Adelaide Crows
    Saturday April 8 at the Adelaide Oval (7.40pm)

    POWER
    B: D.Byrne-Jones, T.Clurey, D.Houston
    HB: M.Broadbent, T.Jonas, H.Hartlett
    C: B.Ebert, O.Wines, J.Polec
    HF: S.Powell-Pepper, J.Westhoff, C.Wingard
    F: J.Trengove, C.Dixon, A.Young
    FOL: P.Ryder, T.Boak, R.Gray
    I/C: K.Amon, J.Impey, B.Edddy, S.Gray
    EMG: M.White, J.Atley, N.Krakouer

    IN: H.Hartlett
    OUT: J.Hombsch

    CROWS
    B: A.Otten, K.Hartigan, R.Laird
    HB: B.Smith, D.Talia, L.Brown
    C: R.Douglas, R.Atkins, R.Sloane
    HF: T.Lynch, M.McGovern, R.Knight
    F: C.Cameron, T.Walker, E.Betts
    FOL: S.Jacobs, C.Hampton, M.Crouch
    I/C: J.Lever, J.Kelly, D.Mackay, W.Milera
    EMG: M.Poholke, T.Menzel, R.O’Brien

    IN: J.Lever
    OUT: J.Jenkins

    Fremantle v Western Bulldogs
    Saturday April 8 at Subiaco (7.40pm)

    DOCKERS
    B: E.Hughes, J.Hamling, L.Spurr
    HB: G.Ibbotson, M.Johnson, T.Sheridan
    C: S.Hill, L.Neale, B.Hill
    HF: L.Weller, C.McCarthy, E.Langdon
    F: M.Walters, S.Kersten, B.Grey
    FOLL: A.Sandilands, N.Fyfe, D.Mundy
    I/C: C.Blakely, H.Balic, G.Logue, H.Crozier
    EMG: M.Taberner, D.Pearce, J.Griffin

    IN: T.Sheridan, H.Crozier, B.Grey, H.Balic, E.Hughes, G.Logue
    OUT: Z.Dawson, D.Pearce, J.Griffin, N.Suban,C.Sutcliffe, D.Tucker

    BULLDOGS
    B: M.Adams, F.Roberts, J.Johannisen
    HB: M.Suckling, E.Wood, R.Murphy
    C: L.Hunter, L.Dahlhaus, M.Boyd
    HF: J.Macrae, L.Jong, J.Stringer
    F: T.McLean, T.Cloke, L.Picken
    FOLL: T.Boyd, M.Bontempelli, T.Liberatore
    I/C: Z.Cordy, T.Campbell, S.Biggs, C.Daniel
    EMG: C.Smith, J.Dunkley, B.Williams

    IN: T.McLean
    OUT: S.Crameri

    St Kilda v Brisbane Lions
    Sunday April 9 at Etihad Stadium (1.10pm)

    SAINTS
    B: J.Geary, N.Brown, S.Gilbert
    HB: J.Newnes, J.Carlisle, D.Roberton
    C: S.Savage, J.Steele, L.Montagna
    HF: J.Lonie, N.Riewoldt, M.Weller
    F: J.Gresham, J.Bruce, T.Membrey
    FOL: T.Hickey, S.Ross, L.Dunstan
    I/C (from): B.Acres, J.Billings, B.Longer, B.Long, J.Webster, P.McCartin, J.Sinclair
    IN: N.Riewoldt , B.Longer , B.Long , J.Sinclair
    OUT: J.Steven

    LIONS
    B: N.Robertson, J.Frost, D.Gardiner
    HB: S.Mayes, H.Andrews, T.Cutler
    C: D.Zorko, J.Berry, H.McCluggage
    HF: L.Taylor, E.Hipwood, D.Rich
    F: M.Robinson, J.Schache, D.McStay
    FOL: S.Martin, D.Beams, T.Rockliff
    I/C (from): T.Bell, R.Bewick, C.Beams, L.Dawson, M.Close, R.Lester, J.Barrett

    IN: C.Beams, L.Dawson, J.Schache, J.Berry, H.McCluggage
    OUT: R.Bastinac, R.Harwood

    Carlton v Essendon
    Sunday April 9 at the MCG (3.20pm)

    BLUES
    B: S.Docherty, C.Marchbank, S.White
    HB: K.Simpson, S.Rowe, L.Plowman
    C: S.Kerridge, P.Cripps, E.Curnow
    HF: D.Thomas, J.Weitering, J.Silvagni
    F: M.Wright, L.Casboult, S.Petrevski-Seton
    FOL: M.Kreuzer, B.Gibbs, M.Murphy
    I/C (from): C.Curnow, B.Smedts, H.McKay, R.Palmer, H.Macreadie, J.Pickett, T.Williamson

    IN: R.Palmer, S.Kerridge, T.Williamson, H.McKay
    OUT: D.Armfield

    BOMBERS
    B: M.Baguley, M.Hurley, B.Stanton
    HB: B.Goddard, P.Ambrose, J.Kelly
    C: T.Colyer, D.Heppell, O.Fantasia
    HF: M.Brown, C.Hooker, D.Zaharakis
    F: Z.Merrett, J.Daniher, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti
    FOL: M.Leuenberger, J.Watson, H.Hocking
    I/C (from): A.McGrath, D.Parish, M.Gleeson, J.Stewart, K.Langford, S.McKernan, M.Dea

    IN: M.Leuenberger, H.Hocking, M.Brown, M.Dea, J.Stewart
    OUT: B.Howlett, M.Hartley

    Gold Coast Suns v Hawthorn
    Sunday April 9 at Metricon Stadium (4.40pm)

    SUNS
    B: J.Harbrow, S.May, J.Bowes
    HB: K.Kolodjashnij, R.Thompson, A.Saad
    C: D.Swallow, G.Ablett, M.Rosa
    HF: J.Lyons, T.Lynch, B.Matera
    F: T.Miller, P.Wright, J.Martin
    FOL: J.Witts, M.Barlow, A.Hall
    I/C (from): A.Sexton, J.Lonergan, B.Fiorini, J.Leslie, S.Lemmens, J Grant (replacing B.Ainsworth), J.Joyce

    IN: J.Harbrow, B.Matera, J.Lonergan, B.Fiorini
    OUT: C.Ah Chee

    HAWKS
    B: B.Stratton, J.Frawley, S.Burgoyne
    HB: L.Hodge, R.Burton, J.Gibson
    C: L.Shiels, J.O’Meara, I.Smith
    HF: L.Breust, J.Gunston, C.Rioli
    F: T.Vickery, J.Roughead, P.Puopolo
    FOL: B.McEvoy, W.Langford, T.Mitchell
    I/C (from): R.Henderson, K.Stewart, T.Miles, B.Whitecross, J.Sicily, B.Hartung, K.Brand

    IN: B.Whitecross, K.Brand, B.Hartung, J.Sicily
    OUT: G.Birchall
     
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Discussion in 'Blog' started by TheTassieHawk, Apr 6, 2017.

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    1. ELeviathan
      ELeviathan
      Great Rookie overview Tassie Hawk! It's gone from famine to feast. Hopefully a few of the debutants can manage a run of games
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    2. Penske file
      Penske file
      At last Ross Lyon has been overpowered at selection, Dawson OUT, hope he continues to blood some rookies.
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    3. Iain
      Iain
      Good week from an ORFFL perspective, would have been nice if Freo had also given Collins a run though.
    4. Hazey1977
      Hazey1977
      Hmmm.... Do I have the stones to push Nank forward and start Pruess in the ruck? Probably not with Goldy back!
    5. walesy
      walesy
      hahaha, it's a gutsy move even without Goldi coming back :D
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    6. Hazey1977
      Hazey1977
      I've been on the Preuss Juice! (See Timmy Watson on SEN for reference).

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    7. TheTassieHawk
      TheTassieHawk
      It depends on who he would start ahead of - if you have Florent at M9/F7 tonight you may be able to see how he goes and then decide on rolling the dice on Preuss or another rookie.
    8. Hazey1977
      Hazey1977
      Where this devious falls down is the loop is Darcy Cameron... So it'd have to be all in our nothing! (?I think)

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    9. TheTassieHawk
      TheTassieHawk
      Probably better not to risk Preuss if you can't loophole him out of a sub 55 score but can loophole elsewhere instead.
    10. tk
      tk
      Interested in some advice from the brainstrust around here.

      I am trading out J.Smith and McCarthy (yes, McCarthy was a stupid gamble that I deeply regret!).

      I can afford any combination of the options below.
      Trade in one DEF: Otten v Newman v Marchbank
      Trade in one FWD: Houston v WHE v Preuss (maybe... via DPP)

      DEF will not be on-field (unless subbing Hampton). FWD will be on-field unless I decide to go with one of Eddy/Parfitt/Pickett instead.

      I'm currently thinking that I'd rather go for the cheapies rather than Marchbank/WHE - just because the point of any of the players I'm trading in is that they are all about cash generation rather than ending up in my final 6 on-fielders. And by going cheapies, it ties up less capital and keeps the freedom for other changes/upgrades as required in the coming weeks. I've learned in recent years that there's nothing more annoying than missing out on the player you *really* want to trade-in to replace someone with an LTI just for the sake of ~$30K.

      And it will be deeply annoying if both WHE and Houston both score around 80 this week. On balance, as soon as WHE has a ~75 week (which I believe he was tracking for at 3QT last week), he's not nearly as valuable for the investment... well, as long as either Houston or Preuss keeps their place in their teams. I'm also a little dubious about Preuss's scoring capacity when Goldy is playing. Will Houston hold his place for much longer??

      In terms of Otten vs Newman, it's job security that makes me most worried. Is Otten wavering on the chopping block despite a great score last week given other players returning from injury? Newman shows promise and is mature-age, but what are his likely prospects for staying in the team? Perhaps also worth considering waiting a week for Newman vs one of the new rookies that might be a superstar (Berry?).

      Interested in anyone's comments, or votes for:
      Option 1: Marchbank & WHE (because my reasoning above sucks, and you think I'm better off paying for JS)
      Option 2: Otten & Houston
      Option 3: Newman & Houston
      Option 4: Otten & WHE
      Option 5: Newman & WHE
      Thumbs up: Hold fire on DEF, then go with Berry or Newman or ?? in coming weeks, & Houston
      Thumbs down: Hold fire on DEF, then go with Berry or Newman or ?? in coming weeks, & WHE
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    11. kram
      kram
      Where best buys?
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    12. TheTassieHawk
      TheTassieHawk
    13. walesy
      walesy
      It takes a lot of time for BB to put together the best buys, time that he sadly no longer has!

      That said though, if anyone does have the time and passion to pick up the mantle, by all means, go for it (cause man, I miss it!)

      In the mean time though, MyTeams > Trade Plans is filling in for me :D
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    14. TheTassieHawk
      TheTassieHawk
      I am still considering a Hanners downgrade to Nankervis which would leave enough cash to upgrade a rookie to a non ruckman.

      Who is the best option up to $426k ?
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    15. kram
      kram
      Yep, it was a ripper, hope someone takes up the challenge!
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    16. kram
      kram
      For the record my Rd 3 changes were O'Meara to Murphy and McCartin to Houston. In hindsight McCartin wasn't a great pick, but the AFL captains picked him for a breakout, not sure that will translate to points now though. O'Meara not so bad, but Murphy is shaping as a potential top 10 scorer, so worth sneaking him in while I can afford to. He was close to getting a start pre-season anyway.
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    17. RPritch
      RPritch
      Only my opinion, but I probably couldn't go passed WHE and Otten. To answer your concerns, I'd say that Otten is pretty safe in terms of job security and that WHE is a superior option to Houston since I'm uncertain on both Houston's job security and if he can keep up his current rate of scoring
    18. walesy
      walesy
      At that price TTH, I'd probably be looking at WHE, and leaving cash in the kicker for future upgrades.

      Though Oliver is certainly tempting! :D
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    19. tk
      tk
      Thanks RPritch. I agree that it *seems* the most sensible option. However, there's something about WHE that makes me nervous (which is why he wasn't in my team to start with). Maybe unwarranted, I dunno. I'm worried he'll fall to 70-75ppg... at which point he's in that awkward "on-field but not doing enough" especially given many rookies might score that at a much cheaper price.

      I tell you... kram makes a really interesting point above. Now could be the best possible time to jump on the Murphy train. So I'm now considering not worrying so much about cash generation and jumping on a super-prem at a bargain basement price instead. This means holding off on the DEF trade, and coming up with some convoluted option to get him into the MIDs (which would definitely mean McCarthy => Houston). Hmmmmm. Probably means the kiss of death for poor ol' Murph if I go ahead with that strategy, though!

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