2018 ORFFF MSD Delists

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  1. YAD69

    YAD69 Moderator Staff Member

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    The Virgins delist:

    Ed Vickers-Willis
    Zack Guthrie
    Cory Maynard
     
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  2. TheTassieHawk

    TheTassieHawk SC fanatic Staff Member

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    In a lineball decision the unlucky 29er to be delisted is Nic Newman (Sydney), reducing the our list to 28 players prior to the draft.
     
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  3. Brett Sanders

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    Maralinga Atoms delist Cameron O'shea as our only list change for the year.
     
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  4. Brett Sanders

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    I just realized that i have missed the delist deadline by and hour. Im happy to leave my team unchanged if thats a problem?
     
  5. That KI Guy

    That KI Guy Moderator Staff Member

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    Nah that’s fine, I’m happy to allow it.
     
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  6. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe in future we should have some sort of penalty for late delists, like maybe dropping down the draft order?

    I chose to delist an extra player last night at about 9:30pm based on the amount of live picks at that time.

    There were 5 more players delisted after that, pushing my last pick down a few rungs. 4 of them were posted within the agreed timeframe, 1 wasn’t.

    It’s actually not that big a deal and I’m also happy with your decision @That KI Guy to allow it.

    I’m just suggesting a conversation around a potential penalty for future occasions. What do you think?
     
  7. Len

    Len Cockburn Knightrider Staff Member

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    Will get the draft sheet etc and thread setup when I get home tonight, need to double check I've kept @ViQBoZ 's sheet up to date also.
     
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  8. thokash

    thokash Full-Time Magician Staff Member

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    I mean, just don't allow late delistings...that the answer.
     
  9. TheTassieHawk

    TheTassieHawk SC fanatic Staff Member

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    For the MSD that's a sensible approach if someone or lots of people are very late and impacts on others, which I don't consider 100 minutes to be at all.

    For PSD forced delistings as per the Commish and Board concensus on the relevant playing list should ensure that people at least try to be on time.
     
  10. Brett Sanders

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    As I said, I'm fine with that, I'll put Cam O'Shea back on my list and cancel my pick on the draft.
     
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  11. leematty1

    leematty1 Well-Known Member

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    i personally thinks it ok to let it fly this time around as it didnt impact anyone if it had been made a minute before deadline anyway.
     
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  12. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    Thinking it over more, I guess this is probably what needs to happen, otherwise where do you stop allowing them?

    In this case though, I personally think we should stick with @That KI Guy decision and allow Brett to drop O’Shea.
     
  13. Darran

    Darran Well-Known Member

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    I agree let the delistment stand especially as the commish has already ruled on this.

    There are probably a few rules we need to discuss/clarify and this may be one of them.

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  14. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    I should’ve followed this myself...
    Just remembered we have another thread set up for if people want to change rules etc.

    http://tooserious.net/forum/threads/orfff-rules-proposals.89339/#Rc8ggmrxxbDDWXx7.97


    This is from the agreed rules:

    7(j) Any ORFFF coach can propose a new rule, or propose a modification to any current rule, by posting a proposal in the ORFFF Rules Proposals thread and then setting up a poll under the guidelines of 7(i). A proposal of a particular rule, or to modify rules in any particular way, should generally only be made once in any 2 year period. A coach wishing to make a proposal less than 2 years after the previous vote on that same matter, may do so if they have gained permission from the ORFFF Board. If a vote decides in favour of a proposal made in line with this clause, a ORFFF Board member will update the rules accordingly.

    7(k) Any disputes between coaches or in relation to these rules can be raised with the ORFFF Board, who will endeavour to resolve the issue satisfactorily.


    Read more at http://tooserious.net/forum/threads...l-federation-rules.89340/#38uD0e27l1ZskTy1.99
     
  15. That KI Guy

    That KI Guy Moderator Staff Member

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    No you’re all good mate.
    I made the call so you’re delist stands and you can take your pick.
     
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  16. Len

    Len Cockburn Knightrider Staff Member

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    Pretty much this, all rules that have a real purpose also have a spirit, I typically prefer to observe the spirit of a rule than it's literal meaning, when there is no good reason to do otherwise beyond the rule itself.
     
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  17. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah I like this approach in bold
     

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