@Len not looking for a job in politics or diplomacy any time soon? I like it! I had a chat with @walesy and zeros is by far the easiest for him as its zero action on his part. He did say that if the majority really want averages then he'll be happy enough to make it work (not quite verbatim). Lets see what some of the other ORFF*'s are doing, but it might just be best to cut the big man some slack and follow Len's advice in investing in a straw.