I hope when I take my pick that Damo, TTT, JPK and Insider are online. That way, I can take R1 AND R2 on the same day.
Hey guys, Marty G has just advised me that there may be a position opening in the near future. i am keen to join if you're looking for a last minute entry. Cheers, Kym
Keep Dreaming wrote: Hey guys, Marty G has just advised me that there may be a position opening in the near future. i am keen to join if you're looking for a last minute entry. Cheers, Kym I am happy to vouch for Kym as it would seem that not everyone is checking this site regularly. I know there was not going to be penalties for being late, but agree with others - Mick is probably a top bloke that has something on or forgotten about it.... Put it to a vote maybe? and for those excited about a girl being in the comp, sorry it's just his name....
FWIW, here's my take on the situation. I don't want to put the knife in the middle of Mick's shoulder blades just yet as he may be under the impression that nothing was going to happen until mid-January, and he's spending that time how he sees fit. However, my concern is that emails and messages that have been sent to him, are going unanswered, which to me shows a total lack of communication with the group he has agreed to join. One week without replying I can tolerate, but I believe it's been a whole lot longer than that, and that is where my concern lies. As there's a new player who has been recommended to us, ready to join in, then I think that should be shown some consideration. I would suggest waiting til the day (5th Jan?) when penalties commence, before a final decision is made. That would also mean that there would be no more draft selections made until that date, as Mick's selection is next.
Everyone is obviously super keen to draft, however we did say no penalties until January 5. I'm gutted as I really want to get underway, playing devil's advocate if we wanted everyone to have a pick couldn't we just bump everyone up one position and give Mick pick 18? At least then everyone would have their first player. I don't expect everyone to agree, just thought it's better than booting Mick out without knowing his circumstances, just putting it out there.
I'm also keen to take my pick but we did say 'no penalties until Jan 5' and I think we should honour that agreement.
I like the idea. However I've had my 1st selection and I can understand the frustration of having to wait, but if Mick does have a legitimate reason for being AWOL and non-communicado (like being in hospital, for argument's sake) then he would be penalised if dropped to no.18 selection and we did agree to no penalties until Jan 5th. Just sayin'....
I'm also wanting to get my first pick, and keep the draft going, but we did say no penalties, so in my view, there can be no penalties. Mick hasn't yet broken any of the 'rules', although not communicating with us is very annoying (but maybe there's a perfectly legitimate reason).Punishing him by dropping him down the order is a bit unfair, as is kicking him out altogether. Unfortunately I think we'll all just have to wait until either he contacts someone, or 5 January comes around.
Yeah as frustrating as it is I don't think we have any other option but to wait until Jan 5. Could be any number of legitimate scenarios why he hasn't been able to reply. Easier for me to say though when I've already had a pick but pick 34 seems even further away now!
I'm keen to get going ASAP also (I'll be in South America with limited internet from 5-10 Jan so might cause some delays myself) but I think we have to wait until January 5, as it was made clear that no penalties would be imposed until that date. It would be unfair to Mick to change the approach now. If we haven't heard from him by then though I think a vote regarding his spot is reasonable. (Although the original rules as agreeddid say the draft was to start the day the positions were announced and everyone would then have 24 hours to vote before getting the highest averaging player.So we could havethe first issue for a rules committtee, i.e. is the 'amnesty' to the 5th valid? Personally I'd think not, but still think we should wait until the 5th anyway to be fair). And I'd love to bump myself up one position but I thinkdropping 10 spots in the opening roundwould pretty clearly be a punishment to Mick.
We will wait until the 5th of January before making a decision, unless we receive prior notification from Mick
I think the issues have become blurred here lads. The point I raised was about AWOL/Inactivity/lack of communication. The drafting/Jan 15 issue is quite separate. Ignore the fact we are in the middle of a draft - would we all tolerate a month + of inactivity without any forewarning or popping in for a quick 'im busy lads, be on when i can' ? Thats the real issue. Ignore the no draft penalties and all that because its just coincidental that the issue has cropped up around draft time. Id like to defer to Tomster and propose a vote with A) give Mick the boot now (and put into our rules that after 'x' amount of inactive time, a player may be voted out of the comp) B) give him until Supercoach positions are officially announced C) give him until Jan 15 Thoughts Bossman?
When it comes down to it, as much as I was playing devil's advocate regarding the draft I'm happy to wait until January 5. I do however have a concern that we may already have a player that is not overly committed to our keeper league. It would be incredibly disappointing if we lost an original licensee before a ball has been bounced. On a positive note it's good to see we have another interested party if need be. How far will Swan slide, if he's still there at 11 I'll probably overlook him, great scorer just not enough years in him to warrant s first round pick for my liking.
insider wrote: I think the issues have become blurred here lads. The point I raised was about AWOL/Inactivity/lack of communication. The drafting/Jan 15 issue is quite separate. Ignore the fact we are in the middle of a draft - would we all tolerate a month + of inactivity without any forewarning or popping in for a quick 'im busy lads, be on when i can' ? Thats the real issue. Ignore the no draft penalties and all that because its just coincidental that the issue has cropped up around draft time. Id like to defer to Tomster and propose a vote with A) give Mick the boot now (and put into our rules that after 'x' amount of inactive time, a player may be voted out of the comp) B) give him until Supercoach positions are officially announced C) give him until Jan 15 Thoughts Bossman? Perhaps Tomster could hold all our mobile numbers and only use in times of emergency... like now!! I would be happy for him to have mine and if I was holding everything up a quick txt would get things going again. Just a thought!
insider wrote: I think the issues have become blurred here lads. The point I raised was about AWOL/Inactivity/lack of communication. The drafting/Jan 15 issue is quite separate. Ignore the fact we are in the middle of a draft - would we all tolerate a month + of inactivity without any forewarning or popping in for a quick 'im busy lads, be on when i can' ? Thats the real issue. Ignore the no draft penalties and all that because its just coincidental that the issue has cropped up around draft time. Id like to defer to Tomster and propose a vote with A) give Mick the boot now (and put into our rules that after 'x' amount of inactive time, a player may be voted out of the comp) B) give him until Supercoach positions are officially announced C) give him until Jan 15 Thoughts Bossman? You're starting to convince me Insider. Surely someone who is committed to the cause would atleast long-on once in a month and mention that he'll be going awol, but will be back.
HOLKY wrote: I'm also keen to take my pick but we did say 'no penalties until Jan 5' and I think we should honour that agreement. Just as someone with no real horse in this race, I gotta agree with the above. Particularly over the silly season when people go away and do whatever wacky things that people do in the off-season! It's frustrating, and drafts are fun, and I wanna do one RIGHT NOW as well, but surely if you set a date, you gotta stick with it?