Len wrote: gravenger wrote: Thnx Len, Can I confirm another point/s regarding trading prior to the MSD. If coaches wish to trade MSD draft picks then I presume that this can only be done if a coach has an obligation to participate in the MSD. And if a pick was to be traded, it would only be identified by round number. Coaches whom delisted down to 22 or lower prior to the PSD (and thus have voluntary MSD involvement) would not be able to trade MSD picks. Are these correct presumptions? Draft picks for any round of the 2014 MSD and the 2015 PSD can be traded, regardless of compulsory involvement levels. For the 2014 MSD the round number and pick number of the traded pick needs to be listed and will be knowable, for 2015 PSD picks traded the round number must be listed, the pick number is unknowable. The value of the pick is determined by the holder, so whilst a R1 pick for a coach who does not have to participate in the MSD is nil should he not trade it or exercise it, it is still a valid currency and can be traded as normal to realise value. Hope that answers the query Ah ha, tis clear now cheers
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We had one after the PSD chels and no-one wanted to play.. I don't have an issue with having a short one after the draft is complete if we finish in time, but given the lack of activity last time would be reluctant to see a shortening of the time frames for activities we get full participation in..
Len wrote: We had one after the PSD chels and no-one wanted to play.. I don't have an issue with having a short one after the draft is complete if we finish in time, but given the lack of activity last time would be reluctant to see a shortening of the time frames for activities we get full participation in.. Will we be bringing in a short trade period after the draft? I also like the idea, well, don't see the harm in it if it doesn't collide with anything else anyway!
Having already commented I was leaving it for Terry and suspect JC was doing the same, but in his absence, (and I am sure he will agree)... The current draft period is from 19th to the 27th May, history says we draft faster than allocated, and given the lack of movement during trade week I suspect it will be a very shallow draft with not a lot of picks exercised. That being the case, I believe we can add one to the end of the draft period, however due to the fact that we need certainty of our squads by the morning of Thursday 29th, and given we have a 48 hour 'veto' thing still in place this period would have to end at midnight on the 26th. So as long as we finish before that time any gap can be used for trading. Obviously removing the veto requirement for this period would lengthen the time available, but this is a rule change and we typically avoid them mid-season, and rarely get agreement to make them then.
Would definitely support a post draft trade period. Again, there might be coaches who, after the draft, may still want to balance their lineups for the run home. I'd also agree that there should be no auctions during the period.
TerryinBangkok wrote: 24 hours (including veto time). No auction. Len to confirm the date. No probs Terry, will give a date when the draft has passed it's zenith
Len wrote: TerryinBangkok wrote: 24 hours (including veto time). No auction. Len to confirm the date. No probs Terry, will give a date when the draft has passed it's zenith Just a thought - can we consider the timing of this trade period in relation to the naming of teams for Round 10? If we were able to maybe have this trade period open during a time after when the teams for Round 10 are announced, it may provide more information on players coming back from injuries, being selected in teams and the like. It would be good to have this type of information at hand if considering a trade. Hate to trade for an injured player, or trade one away to someone else either.
chris88 wrote: Len wrote: TerryinBangkok wrote: 24 hours (including veto time). No auction. Len to confirm the date. No probs Terry, will give a date when the draft has passed it's zenith Just a thought - can we consider the timing of this trade period in relation to the naming of teams for Round 10? If we were able to maybe have this trade period open during a time after when the teams for Round 10 are announced, it may provide more information on players coming back from injuries, being selected in teams and the like. It would be good to have this type of information at hand if considering a trade. Hate to trade for an injured player, or trade one away to someone else either. Nothing if not creative Chris Personally as someone who spends 2-3 hours on a Thursday night going over my DT, my Real DT, my 2 SC teams and the TG games one, and my 4 UF sides, then dissects the Misfits I feel it would be too squashy. If we traded until midnight Thursday those that struggle to gain internet access at work or school would be really rushed getting a final team together on Friday. We are discussing what the period should be now, but whilst I can see the point you are making I think it could be a serious distraction on teams night.. I have traded 3 players in the last 12 months that got injured before playing a game, the Misfits believe the only way to avoid unexpected outs is to not name a team
Len wrote: chris88 wrote: Len wrote: TerryinBangkok wrote: 24 hours (including veto time). No auction. Len to confirm the date. No probs Terry, will give a date when the draft has passed it's zenith Just a thought - can we consider the timing of this trade period in relation to the naming of teams for Round 10? If we were able to maybe have this trade period open during a time after when the teams for Round 10 are announced, it may provide more information on players coming back from injuries, being selected in teams and the like. It would be good to have this type of information at hand if considering a trade. Hate to trade for an injured player, or trade one away to someone else either. Nothing if not creative Chris Personally as someone who spends 2-3 hours on a Thursday night going over my DT, my Real DT, my 2 SC teams and the TG games one, and my 4 UF sides, then dissects the Misfits I feel it would be too squashy. If we traded until midnight Thursday those that struggle to gain internet access at work or school would be really rushed getting a final team together on Friday. We are discussing what the period should be now, but whilst I can see the point you are making I think it could be a serious distraction on teams night.. I have traded 3 players in the last 12 months that got injured before playing a game, the Misfits believe the only way to avoid unexpected outs is to not name a team Understand what you are saying Chels. I guess I was looking more at how things might progress up to this weekend's matches. Going into the next full round (and the ORFFA's return from mid season break) would be way too squashy, but if we were able to have the context of the teams from this weekend coming, that might be handy. Or, it might be completely superfluous ... I don't know!
Don't know what chels is saying. But we have agreed to a very brief trade period after the draft and before kick-off, just to satisfy a few of our coaches who in the main feel there may be a need to swap away some of their draft selections. Since this is not a deep draft in terms of # of picks, a brief period should suffice, provided that this does not in any way distract from, or interfere with, our main program. Running anything concurrent with teams announcement would be poor timing with respect to other priorities, particularly since there are 2 team announcements (when you count the Sunday squads).
I suspect the chels of which you speak is in fact chris. I know I am schizo, but no need to invent a new personality, thank you.
chels wrote: I suspect the chels of which you speak is in fact chris. I know I am schizo, but no need to invent a new personality, thank you. Quite so, although I suspect Len was masquerading as chels in this case.
TerryinBangkok wrote: chels wrote: I suspect the chels of which you speak is in fact chris. I know I am schizo, but no need to invent a new personality, thank you. Quite so, although I suspect Len was masquerading as chels in this case. Love a good masquerade to be honest
A second mini-trade period will be trialled following the end of the MSD It will commence when the last pick is taken in the current draft and end at midnight Tuesday 27th, including any vetos etc.. If there is no activity it will probably be the last one we try to squeeze in for a while..