Vultures break the coveted 1500 mark, for what I believe is the first time in our history, but by a mere 2 points thanks to Jaeger trying to hold us back a little. Packers were scaring us at stages with Sloane and Mundy going huge also, Hipwoods single point rained in that fear a bit haha, kid has a huge future though.
With two weeks of potential rolling lockouts coming up - round 4 plays Thursday through Monday and round 5 plays Friday through Tuesday - might it not be a good time to discuss when lockout occurs? I would like to know when the teams for the final games will be finalised on afl.com.au before expressing a view. Does anyone know for sure? Disclosure: In round 4 I have quite a few players who may well be playing Monday. In round 5 I have no players in the Anzac Day (Tuesday) clash.
The Monday issue comes up every year and, to the best of my knowledge (the memory is a bit hazy these days ), I think we usually only provide for partial lockouts for Thursday night games and Monday games get locked out with the rest after Friday night kick off. Not sure if the Tuesday scenario has come up before though.
Ideally I'd like to leave it as a Friday lockout for both. As JC has suggested that's what we have done previously for Mondays. The Tuesday issue is a pain, my primary concern would be deliberate loopholing were we to have the lockout after some or all of Saturday's games. I am not sure when the AFL would lock in Tuesday's teams .
I understand the fear of loopholing. I omitted to mention that this week is Good Friday. The Thursday evening game is carded for 1810 hours - presumably WA time? The Friday game is carded for a 1620 hours bounce. So it is quite possible that the Sunday teams, let alone the Monday teams, might not be finalised before Friday's bounce. Note the Easter weekend games are spread over 5 days (Thursday to Monday inclusive) which is quite a stretch given there are two Sunday and one Monday games. The Anzac Day game series is also over 5 days (Friday to Tuesday inclusive) with two games on Sunday for which final teams will be declared beofre the bounce on Friday evening. That means the teams for one game on Monday and the one Tuesday game might not be finalised by the Friday bounce. While over Easter (round 4 ) there are three games for which teams might not be finalised; potentially a more onerous outcome than in round 5. In equity, I suggest similar rules should apply to both rounds.
@graeme - I would expect Sunday teams to be chopped at 5pm on Friday as per usual (ie 40 mins after the 1st bounce of the Good Friday match). There is one less Sunday match in Round 4 so I would expect that it's easier to consider (for all ORFF* comps) whether to lockout with the 3 Sunday/Monday games yet to be finalised or to lockout at 145pm match on Saturday with the Monday game only yet to be final (as is usually the case with Monday games).
Going on experience in earlier rounds, teams for Friday and Saturday were announced on Thursday, while final Sunday teams were announced on Friday. I would assume they will stick with this formula, but anticipate a bunch of 'late changes' for Monday/Tuesday games. I also noted from earlier rounds that SC had a rolling lockout up until Saturday in one instance, but ORFF* teams were locked Friday night. I expect SC will announce how they intend to handle it. I think our pig hunting comrade should be content that he gets to know teams an hour before we do. Spare a thought for Snoz, he won't even know what day it is.
As always I appreciate the levity. Perhaps we are talking slightly at cross-purposes. Perhaps my posts are not clear. We have consecutive rounds that are spread over 5 days. I am relaxed about what time we set lockout for round 4. However, I suggest we should have lockout for round 5 on the same basis (i.e., have as close as it is possible to get to equal uncertainty about final teams in both rounds).
Folks have tried, but I am sadly too heavy to levitate. Hope I am not further crossing purposes when I say with clarity that our scoring system is based on SC and that we thus follow the SC lockout. I guess we could alter this manually - is this what you are proposing?
Packers had their highest ever score since I have taken over the team and I had to come up against Fitzy who had his highest ever.. I think it was the threat of cheap wine that got the boys motivated....
SC don't lockout mate, it's a constant by game roll. I have a vague memory of raising this with the match committee during the off-season, will search my messages and see if what they decided is within
Nope, that was about R9 which was elegantly resolved. I have a preference for just sucking it up and having it be Friday as normal (ie roll through Thursday), we have done this for Monday games before. I can see validity in the arguement that R5 is different but believe the actual outcome is the same, we are just talking about 4 teams not 2, it's not like SC doesn't throw grenades at us with late changes anyway. Happy to ask the match committee guys to look at it and test my logic (or lack thereof) if there is sufficient angst.
Yes. I read where SC is a constant roll, but thought it was just for that round (remember me raising why SC were constant and ORFF* were not, wanting to put an OPP in ruck and losing to Fitzy by a point?). This from DT Talk: "Talking Point For all those trivial complaints directed at AFL Fantasy over the years, not one has had any merit. Until this week. Round 4 is locked out before teams are finalised on Friday. Sure we might have finally gotten ourselves an excuse to not be with family on Easter Friday, but was it really worth it? Why there isn’t another partial lockout I have absolutely no idea, but all that matters is we won’t know the final Sunday or Monday teams before lockout. Wow. Prepare for some possible pain later in the week." Think this is what the Cows were talking about.
Exactly TiB. This is not a normal 2150 hours* Friday lockout with Sunday and Monday teams finalised around 1730 hours. It is a 1620 hours lockout with teams not finalised until 1730 hours. I have no problem with that if there is an equivalent lockout (1950 hours) for round 5. It would be inequitable if we locked out at 1730 hours this week and then, after realising what had happened, reacted by having a later lockout for round 5. The impacts would not be equal across all teams. My posts have been an attempt to try to bring this to everyones attention before the event. * I have tried to convert all times to Melbourne times.
Yeah, I got the point and it's dumb, but Fantasy sport is often at the whims of the real game on which it's based, this is just another example of it I guess.. I agree mate, which is why my preference is to just leave it, and bank on our abilities to cover the most affected lines over the two weeks, I am 100% on it being the same approach to the two rounds. I am not completely averse to making the lockout the first Saturday game on the two weekends if there is sufficient support, I'll whack up a quick 48 hour poll when I get home to see where people sit.. The reason for discussion for this Monday/ Monday & Tuesday issue over other instances being the early start on Friday, with only a few teams finalised.