ORFFA Squad Expansion Draft Process & Thread

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    Lenh191 wrote:
    The Misfits utilise pick 23 to welcome Zach Williams of GWS to Marble Bar. Young Zach's performance when coming on as a sub last weekend was stunning. For the mathematically challenged... I think this is sometimes known as #22 :p
     
  2. Len

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    gravenger wrote:
    Lenh191 wrote:
    The Misfits utilise pick 23 to welcome Zach Williams of GWS to Marble Bar. Young Zach's performance when coming on as a sub last weekend was stunning. For the mathematically challenged... I think this is sometimes known as #22 :p lmao, I had his name in the spreadsheet loaded, so when I glanced at it 20 mins later to see what the next pick # was for mine I went to the empty one below :)
    Indeed Zach is pick 22..
     
  3. graeme

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    Pick #23: Luke Mitchell, Carlton, F
    The Waikiks are delighted that the five players targeted in the two drafts were all secured. Good luck to all managers and teams for the second part of the season.
     
  4. J_C

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    Chels, the list in the OP suggests you might have gone a pick early. Sorry mate.
     
  5. graeme

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    TerryinBangkok wrote:
    Part of the reasoning behind the extra picks was to help avoid having to delist young kids we are nurturing. That being the case, my personal view is that we have failed miserably. From the MSD and this little draft, I am agog at the amount of talent (still) available and I would now be more reluctant than ever to part with any of them. Assuming you are being genuine and not tongue in cheek TiB - and that may well be a bad assumption - let me suggest a different interpretation. And no, I do not feel defensive.
    A second order affect of the removal of this amount of talent from next year's pre-season draft my well be to make early picks more valuable as there are fewer 'outs' for those with later picks. This might, over time, allow a wider spread of talent across the association. I am not for one second second suggesting the chickens and the iron knob will instantly be weak teams - rather that teams who finish lower this year will have the chance to make quality changes next year.
    That's just one coaches view and BTW it was not an outcome I perceived pre-draft.
    Before you ask 'who is Luke Mitchell?' He is my second Mitchell; making, just like last year three Mitchs at Waikik. Might he come off as a pick - possibly, but low probability. If he does not he know he will be heading to the door at some stage next year. Is that a good outcome of a draft? I am not sure. Your comments are welcome, in fact please please give some feedback on what you saw as the outcome(s) of the supplementary draft. A new thread perhaps?
     
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    JC wrote:
    Chels, the list in the OP suggests you might have gone a pick early. Sorry mate. Indeed, sorry mate but it's bama who is up atm
     
  7. graeme

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    lmfao - mathematically challenged!! What do I regress stupidity against? Which is the y axis?
     
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    TerryinBangkok wrote:part of the reasoning behind the extra picks was to help avoid having to delist young kids we are nurturing. That being the case, my personal view is that we have failed miserably. From the MSD and this little draft, I am agog at the amount of talent (still) available and I would now be more reluctant than ever to part with any of them. Have to agree with you 100% on this TiB. I estimated there were about 40-50 (with 50 the absolute maximum) players worth drafting in the MSD and expansion drafts, and the rest were mere speculation. The fact that Tom Young went at pick 15 in this draft, when for a while I was considering him with pick 20-something in the MSD, is one example of how badly mistaken my estimate was. And if Tom was still there with my coming expansion draft pick, I'd have grabbed him. In addition, there is STILL a heap of talent on the board - either young players worth taking a spin on (I have 5 I'm interested in) or older guys to fill a gap (including at least one player averaging 80+ppg in SC this year). There's still even a couple of ruckmen in the pool who will be playing this weekend - unbelievable given the apparent shortage of ruckmen and the way they've been snapped up over the past week. What the flow-on effects from this to the PSD will be, I don't know. But I presume there will still be around 15 or so players on the board at the end of this process that could easily prove themselves worthy of drafting in time for next year's PSD. From a personal perspective, I now have 20 players of my current list of 27 aged under 24 and under. Virtually my entire midfield (bar Cunnington, Foley, Harvey and Walker) I've recruited in the past 6 months through the PSD period, pre-PSD trades, and the MSD/pre MSD trades/expansion process. This shows that it is in fact very possible to completely rebuild a team pretty quickly. It also, as you indicate above TiB, makes it a little more challenging to delist players when required as well!
     
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    chels wrote:TerryinBangkok wrote:part of the reasoning behind the extra picks was to help avoid having to delist young kids we are nurturing. That being the case, my personal view is that we have failed miserably. From the MSD and this little draft, I am agog at the amount of talent (still) available and I would now be more reluctant than ever to part with any of them. Assuming you are being genuine and not tongue in cheek TiB - and that may well be a bad assumption - let me suggest a different interpretation. And no, I do not feel defensive. A second order affect of the removal of this amount of talent from next year's pre-season draft my well be to make early picks more valuable as there are fewer 'outs' for those with later picks. This might, over time, allow a wider spread of talent across the association. I am not for one second second suggesting the chickens and the iron knob will instantly be weak teams - rather that teams who finish lower this year will have the chance to make quality changes next year. That's just one coaches view and BTW it was not an outcome I perceived pre-draft. Before you ask 'who is Luke Mitchell?' He is my second Mitchell; making, just like last year three Mitchs at Waikik. Might he come off as a pick - possibly, but low probability. If he does not he know he will be heading to the door at some stage next year. Is that a good outcome of a draft? I am not sure. Your comments are welcome, in fact please please give some feedback on what you saw as the outcome(s) of the supplementary draft. A new thread perhaps? I personally would have found it much harder to keep young prospect players like Jared Polec and Sam Bleese if I didn't have an extra 2 picks to expand my squad... I dropped a player (Lower) who has played every game this year and another (Murphy) that had only missed 1, but I wouldn't have dropped either of them without the comfort of a bigger squad.
     
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    TerryinBangkok wrote:
    Part of the reasoning behind the extra picks was to help avoid having to delist young kids we are nurturing. That being the case, my personal view is that we have failed miserably. From the MSD and this little draft, I am agog at the amount of talent (still) available and I would now be more reluctant than ever to part with any of them. This old raptor said it should be 30 man squads - a statement not made on a whim. :p
     
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    Just a quick FYI guys. Mt Beauty management were notified late last night that it was their turn for selection, and the nominal 18 hours would be up around 5 ish today. However we are a long way ahead of where we have to be and should bama be still unable to pick by then, I don't plan to force a skip at that time...
     
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    Absolutely fine with that, but how long to give the Ugly man? I think its more than reasonable to delay given we are progressing ahead of time, but also think there should be a limit to the 'extension'

     
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    Bandit wrote:
    Absolutely fine with that, but how long to give the Ugly man? I think its more than reasonable to delay given we are progressing ahead of time, but also think there should be a limit to the 'extension'

    I'll have a discussion with him offline surrounding his likely future generosity towards the Misfits at the trade table and get back to you :)
     
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    Lenh191 wrote:
    Just a quick FYI guys. Mt Beauty management were notified late last night that it was their turn for selection, and the nominal 18 hours would be up around 5 ish today. However we are a long way ahead of where we have to be and should bama be still unable to pick by then, I don't plan to force a skip at that time... /Portals/0/User%20Images/chicken01.gif
     
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    Lenh191 wrote:
    [span style='font-size: 10px;]I'll have a discussion with him offline surrounding his likely future generosity towards the Misfits at the trade table and get back to you :)
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  16. graeme

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    back on board after a fine, long lunch Len. I hereby revoke your agency to deal with my trade pick - thank you for the possibility.
    As I assume my previous pick #23 (instead of number 24) is null and void as it was out of sequence I wish to withdraw it. Should I edit the post to put this into play or just leave my error up for others to chuckle at?
     
  17. Len

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    We are all comedians around here mate, may as well leave it there :) I'll re-prompt bama just in case he missed the pm email last night..
     
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    Sorry guys, I did make a selection at about 130pm today on my iphone but for some reason it didn't work, just got home from work now and checked.
    Pick 23 Mount Beauty
    Dylan Grimes Tigers
     
  19. Len

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    No worries mate, plenty of time..
     
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    You can go for real now chels ;)
     

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