ORFFF League Setup, rules and key dates discussion

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  1. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    TheTassieHawk wrote:

    Here are some quick thoughts on some organisational things that need to be worked out or scheduled - please contribute and feel free to bring up add any other issues I have missed
    New comp name to be decided (asap)
    'Rules' to be discussed
    All coaches to indicate what interest they have in contributing to league organisation and admin and any periods of extended unavailability so that we can form a Commisioner/Committee set up to oversee operations through to the end of the 2016 Season
    Approximate Drafting Format and Dates to be determined

    Final Number of Teams to be determined
    Team Names and Blogs on TS

    Hold the draft

    Organise the 2016 Competition Fixture

    Again if there are any other issues I have missed please feel free to mention them and I will add them to this post

    Cheers TTH on the name, another option I have been thinking of is the ORFFC Outer Regional Fantasy Football Collective I am not too keen to get involved in the organising of this league, however I will aim to participate and contribute as much as practicable. I will also step up if need be if we are short of people who actually want to take on roles in the organising/governance of the league. Looking forward to it.
     
  2. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    anthak wrote:
    TheTassieHawk wrote:

    Here are some quick thoughts on some organisational things that need to be worked out or scheduled - please contribute and feel free to bring up add any other issues I have missed
    New comp name to be decided (asap)
    'Rules' to be discussed
    All coaches to indicate what interest they have in contributing to league organisation and admin and any periods of extended unavailability so that we can form a Commisioner/Committee set up to oversee operations through to the end of the 2016 Season
    Approximate Drafting Format and Dates to be determined

    Final Number of Teams to be determined
    Team Names and Blogs on TS

    Hold the draft

    Organise the 2016 Competition Fixture

    Again if there are any other issues I have missed please feel free to mention them and I will add them to this post

    Cheers TTH on the name, another option I have been thinking of is the ORFFC Outer Regional Fantasy Football Collective I am not too keen to get involved in the organising of this league, however I will aim to participate and contribute as much as practicable. I will also step up if need be if we are short of people who actually want to take on roles in the organising/governance of the league. Looking forward to it. Ive got some more ideas/suggestions too... 15 player matchday teams, with 4 emergencies, same structure as ORFFA (and other ORFF leagues I think) 30 player total squad (so we can play intra club matches at training) 1/2 score for players played out of position. No special scores for captains etc. I think we should start the draft soon after the AFL National Draft, and draft all players. 18 teams is my preference. or as many as possible if 18 not achievable. Even if we have to play with a bye. I like the idea of team names to be regional places. Ive got some ideas for my own. For initial draft order, maybe we should make it in order that teams registered their interest for this comp in the official threads. Or maybe reverse order, so whoever next joins up will get 1st pick, and so on. gives people incentive to get involved :) and we might get to 18 teams.
     
  3. Illuminati

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    Ooooooh yes! Count me in. I been waiting for this
     
  4. DamoH

    DamoH Well-Known Member

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    I think the first thing to confirm is the number of teams as this has a flow-on to pretty much everything else (squad size, when we can draft, finals structure etc). A 16 team comp makes sense to me as it would mean we could have a 4 week finals series, while also being able to finish the season early to avoid the 'resting' curse. It also means we're only after another 2 coaches.
     
  5. Len

    Len Cockburn Knightrider Staff Member

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    Given the lack of comment, a 10 or 12 team league may be the outcome
     
  6. grav

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    Yeah I'm def in. Not much time to comment atm. Hope can post some more next week. Given a choice I would go with ORFFC. C could also stand for conference.
     
  7. thokash

    thokash Full-Time Magician Staff Member

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    Just dropping in to continue my interest. Obviously everyone is keen, but my opinion/experience is it's really hard to get anything done before January. That goes for the draft, but more importantly finding coaches that are genuinely interested - I highly doubt too many are lurking around this time of year. Does anyone have a breakdown of the differences in rules between ORFFL, ORFFA and ORFFU? Staying close to this formula is ideal, then we can maybe vote on which aspects have different rules across these 3 comps. As for competition names, like Grav im partial to ORFFC, but I can't decide which C word (how rude!) is my favourite. Throw combine, coalition and confederation in to the ring as well. In fact loving wrestling back in the day, I think my favourite would be ORFFOrder.
     
  8. port_leschenault

    port_leschenault Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm really terrible at checking the forum here, so apologies for not seeing this earlier. I would prefer to have a 16-18 team competition. More the merrier really, but I think the only non-neg would be even number of teams. Run by a Commissioner/Committee is fine but wouldn't be putting my hand up. If it becomes a problem, happy to punt the team off to someone else. Echo Kash's sentiments about wanting to see the differences in the leagues. Coming from the 'FL pretty happy with most, if not all, the rules we have in place for that. If I could think outside the box I'd be trying to come up with an original pun on the whole AWFUL/ORFFL word play but I got nada. I just think if we stick to a theme like regional towns of Australia, we stick to it rather than getting too wild, eg: one team named oddly like the Timbuktu Terriers which would make no sense if everyone else has named teams using the previous example.
     
  9. port_leschenault

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    Names, Names, Names. Alliance
    Assembly
    Band
    Brigade
    Bunch
    Challenge
    Championship
    Class
    Club
    Collection
    Conference
    Conglomerate
    Congregation
    Crew
    Crowd
    Cup
    Division
    Faction
    Gang
    Group
    Organization
    Pack
    Party
    Platoon
    Pool
    Series
    Syndicate
    Troop
    Trophy Real world league names for inspiration:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues#Top-level_tours
     
  10. TheTassieHawk

    TheTassieHawk SC fanatic Staff Member

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    By way of comparison here are the2015 rules for the ORFFU

    http://tooserious.net/Forum/tabid/91/...

    1. TEAMS
    1(a) Teams should be named after a remote Australian town/place. For consistency's sake. However the Commissioner and the Board may make exceptions on a case by case basis.
    1(b) Squads of 26 players during competition.
    1(c) Weekly playing sides will consist of 15 players. 4 Defenders, 4 Midfielders, 1 Ruck, 4 Forwards and 2 Interchange.
    1(d) The Interchange players can be of any position. They score full points.
    1(e) 4 Emergencies can be selected. 1 emergency per line. They come in if a selected player does not play.
    1(f) You can play someone in the wrong position (i.e. Cloke in Defence, but they only get half the points).
    1(g) SC points and player positions.
    1(h) If you don't field a team, in the first instance you get last weeks posted team, on the second occasion you will get zero, for the third time you will get zero as well as your first 3 rounds of post season draft picks forfeited and serious questions will be asked about your commitment with the possible removal from ORFFU.
    [span style='background: white; color: black;]1(i) You must post your team in the Weekly Team Thread prior to the first bounce, as well as entering via TSleagues. This not only helps with record keeping and ensures integrity of scores, it's also a good thing to do to encourage forum activity.

    2. FIXTURE
    2(a) Teams will play each other once in the regular season. Play will not occur in the 3 bye rounds (11, 12 & 13).
    2(b) Where matches are be held over a 2 weeks period (like rounds 18, 19 from 2014) there will be a rolling lockout open during the held over rounds the exact same as SC.
    2(c) Finals will be held in the final 3 weeks of the season (21, 22 & 23).
    2(d) There will be a rolling lockout open during all split rounds. Each time it will close at the start of a game, the exact same as SC.
    2(e) Any non-split rounds will be locked out at the beginning of the first match of the week.
    2(f) Matches on Thursday will be locked out at the start of the game, but games for the rest of the round will be locked out at the beginning of the game on Friday.
    2(g) Home teams will be required to post a match review no later than 2 days after the last AFL match (i.e. last game on Sunday, review posted on Tuesday).
    2(h) During Finals, match reviews will be completed voluntarily be they a participating coach or not, however the participating coaches get first option.

    3. FINALS
    3(a) Final 8, knockout style over 3 weeks (R21-23).
    3(b) In the first week the finals structure will be 1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, 4 v 5.
    3(c) In the second week of the finals, the four winners from the previous weeks finals will playoff in seeded matches, the winner of 1st v 8th will play the winner of 4th v 5th and the winner of 2nd v 7th will play the winner of 3rd v 6th.
    3(d) The third week of the finals will consist of one match between the winners of the previous week's matches. This match is known as the ORFFU Grand Final.

    4. TRADES
    4(a) Preseason Trade Period opens early November until the end of January of the next year. Trading is then open during preseason draft but closes at midnight on the day the preseason draft concludes. Midseason trade period runs during the three bye rounds (see point h).
    4(b) You can trade picks (to the preseason 2015 and the midseason 2015 draft) and players. Trades can be uneven (e.g. 2 players for 1). During preseason draft, picks for that year only may be traded (i.e. you cannot bring 2016 picks into discussions when in a 2015 preseason draft).
    4(c) You can only trade draft picks in the 2 drafts directly ahead (e.g. as above).
    4(d) Trades can be vetoed if a majority of 5 non-participating teams cast a veto vote.
    4(e) Teams will have roughly 48 hours to veto a trade proposed (e.g. If a trade is proposed at 2.15pm on a Tuesday, ORFFU coaches have until 2.15pm on a Thursday to cast their votes. The Commissioner will then check and ratify the trade or veto.
    4(f) Trades posted in the final 48 hours will only have until the end of the official trade period to have vetoes cast.
    4(g) All proposed trades should be posted in the relevant thread. Likewise, all vetoes should be posted on that thread.
    4(h)Mid-Season Trade Period will commence during the first week of the multi-bye rounds (11, 12 & 13) <p style='background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;]
    5. DELISTMENTS
    5(a) Pre-Season Draft delistments must be completed by 12 midnightEST, Wednesday February 11th; ORFFU lists can be no greater than 26 players.
    5(b) To delist players, simply post the players delisted on the delisted thread.
    5(c) ORFFU lists may be cut to fewer than 20 players. However, if you cut your list to less than 10 player's questions will be asked about WTF you're doing with your team in this competition - rightfully so and serious questions will be asked about your commitment with the possible removal from ORFFU.
    5(d) If an ORFFU list exceeds 26 players by the deadline mentioned above, players will be delisted from that team for them (2014 averages from lowest to highest) to take the list down to 26 players and the coach will be in serious risk of losing their place in the ORFFU.
    5(e) To be eligible for the Mid-Season Draft you must delist players by 7pm EST, Wednesday June 17th, ORFFU lists can be no greater than 26 players.

    6. DRAFT
    6(a) The Pre-Season Draft will commence on February 14th 2015 at 10:00am EST.
    6(b) [span style='background: white;]12 hour (maximum) time limit on picks. If you don't pick within time you will be given the highest ranked player on 2014 averages. If the time limit isn't practical, you must notify the ORFFU in advance - i.e. if it is one or two picks before yours but you are flat out at work or have a wedding etc then post that you may need to extend your 12 hours. Alternatively, nominate a proxy and give them a standby list.
    6(c) Teams must continue to draft until their lists are at 26 players.
    6(d) Players can't be reserved&amp;rdquo; (ala the Father-son rule) for drafts. Each coach will pick in the order of their eligible draft picks, and may select any of the available players that they chose. (The option of trading during drafts is designed to allow coaches to bid for players that they wanted but missed out on)
    6(e) Mid-Season Draft will happen in the last week of the multi bye rounds (R13). Draft will run in reverse points for order as of the end of R10.
    6(f) Mid-Season Draft is not compulsory to participate in.
    6(g) There is no salary cap. SC dollars do not exist in this universe.

    7. COMMITTMENT
    7(a) ORFFU requires a way too serious commitment to AFL fantasy football as such there will be times when mandatory comments, opinions, or responses are required within defined time periods associated with requests from the Commissioner or the Board (i.e. responses to trade requests, opinion on rule changes, home game match reviews etc.).
    7(b) During the regular home and away season the home teams will be required to post a match review no later than 2 days after the last AFL match (i.e. last game on Sunday, review posted on Tuesday).
    7(c) Trade requests must be responded to within 1 week of the trade request being sent during any approved trade window. [span style='background: white;]Common sense exceptions are obviously allowed - i.e. you're on holidays and have previously stated this fact.
    7(d) Delisting players to below 20 on your list will raise serious questions about your commitment with the possible removal from ORFFU.
    7(e) Greater than two weeks of no activity or contact at any point in the year (without prior notice of unavailability) is considered grossly inappropriate, and will result in board discussion regarding your tenability to the position of an ORFFU coach.
    7(f) When the Commissioner or the Board inquire into a coach's commitment to ORFFU, they are required to respond within 1 week of the request being sent for the first time, all further requests for that inquiry must be responded to within 24 hours.
    7(g) Opinions are sought from all ORFFU members on all issues. This will occur through polls, forum posts, PM's, and emails. A lack of opinion on a 'few' matters is acceptable, a lack of opinion on 'most' matters shows a lack of interest in the ORFFU and will bring your membership into question.
    7(h) Where a coach is unavailable during the course of the year, that coach must make every effort to notify the Commissioner or the Board within a minimum of 1 weeks' notice, they also need to seek assistance / proxy for the matches and or events being missed and post the unavailability period and what action will be taken for that period on discussions thread.
    7(i) Tanking is frowned upon in any competition including ORFFU, if it appears you are not entering your best available players for a match, questions will be asked about your commitment with the possible removal from ORFFU.
    7(j) There will be no more personal attacks in public forums. If you have issues with another coach, they are to be dealt with in private. Joking around, horse-play, and general banter are however accepted and encouraged.
    7(k) Failure to comply with the above commitments may result in the possible removal from ORFFU.
    7(l) Removal from ORFFU is not taken lightly, the Commissioner and the Board will make every effort to resolve any issues with the coach in question and may use a variety of ways to assess the coaches commitment and may take action with or without a majority rule.
    7(m) Participate! This league will only be a success and an enjoyment if all coaches try to make it that way.

    8. POSITIONS OF POWER

    8(a) All official positions will be vacated at year's end 2 weeks after the ORFFU Grand Final is completed. Official positions are: Commissioner and the Board (made up of the Commissioner and 4 other ORFFU coaches).

    8(b) 2 weeks after the ORRFU Grand final is completed nominations will be called for the Commissioner position first, coaches will have 48 hours to nominate in the Commissioner Nominations&amp;rdquo; thread. Once closed, a poll will be conducted if there is more than one nomination received; if not the sole nomination is accepted to the position without a poll. Where more than one nomination is received all coaches must vote for a candidate within 48 hours after the poll has been issued. The candidate with the most votes wins the position. Where a poll is tied the exiting Commissioner will cast a tie breaker vote if not nominated, if nominated then existing Commissioner will hold his position as Commissioner.

    8(c) Where there are no nominations the Board at that time will discuss and make a judgement call for that position including reappointing the existing Commissioner even if it's the fourth consecutive term.

    8(d) Once the Commissioner position is filled coaches will have 48 hours to nominate in the Board Nominations&amp;rdquo; thread. Once closed, a poll will be conducted if there are more than four nominations received; if not those nominated will be accepted to the positions without a poll. Where more than four nominations are received all non-nominated coaches must vote for 4 candidates within 48 hours after the poll has been issued. The four candidates with the most votes win the positions. Where a poll is tied the new Commissioner will cast tie breaker votes.

    8(e) Where there is less than 3 nominations the new Commissioner will make a call on the Board numbers for that year.

    8(f) A coach can only hold a position of power consecutively for 3 terms and cannot nominate in the fourth year for that position.

    8(g) The role of the Commissioner is to regulate and control the operations of the Outer Regional Fantasy Football Union known as ORFFU. This encompasses making a final ruling, casting a tie breaker vote, ensuring that all coaches have an opportunity to have a say, discussing matters of issue raised in ORFFU with the Board and to ensure the success and enjoyment of the ORRFU for all that are way too serious for fantasy football.

    8(h) The role of the Board is a body of elected or appointed members who jointly oversee the operations of the Outer Regional Fantasy Football Union known as ORFFU. This encompasses discussing matters of issue raised in ORFFU, proposing a variety of recommendations to those issues for a collective and united solution / decision and assist the Commissioner with ensuring the success and enjoyment of the ORRFU for all that are way too serious for fantasy football.
     
  11. stowie

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    Yep, still keen. Distracted by the NFL / NBA / NBL at the moment so sorry for not popping my head in sooner.
     
  12. insider

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    thokash wrote:
    Obviously everyone is keen, but my opinion/experience is it's really hard to get anything done before January. That goes for the draft, but more importantly finding coaches that are genuinely interested - I highly doubt too many are lurking around this time of year. I do my finest work lurking in the background!
     
  13. Len

    Len Cockburn Knightrider Staff Member

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    We've never detailed the FA rules in one spot, I'll grab the list you posted TTH and highlight variances if that works for you?
     
  14. TheTassieHawk

    TheTassieHawk SC fanatic Staff Member

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    Len wrote:<br/>We've never detailed the FA rules in one spot, I'll grab the list you posted TTH and highlight variances if that works for you?&#160; You are a champ Len !
     
  15. Len

    Len Cockburn Knightrider Staff Member

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    TheTassieHawk wrote:
    Len wrote:
    We've never detailed the FA rules in one spot, I'll grab the list you posted TTH and highlight variances if that works for you? You are a champ Len ! Here you go, as noted previously the leagues are more common than different, though in reality the FA is probably more akin to the FL in it's management structure and style.. We do have some specific rules relating to auctions and drafts that are not detailed here, can post them separately if you like. <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]Leaving differences only <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]1. TEAMS <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]1(b) Squads of 26 players during competition. FA has 28 member squads <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]1(h) If you don't field a team, in the first instance you get last weeks posted team, on the second occasion you will get zero, for the third time you will get zero as well as your first 3 rounds of post season draft picks forfeited and serious questions will be asked about your commitment with the possible removal from ORFFU. Same for first offence&amp;rdquo;, never been past that point <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;]1(i) You[span style='text-decoration: underline; color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]mustpost your team in the Weekly Team Thread prior to the first bounce, as well as entering via TSleagues. This not only helps with record keeping and ensures integrity of scores, it's also a good thing to do to encourage forum activity. Totally optional for FA, tsleagues is the keeper of the teams <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]2. FIXTURE <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]2(d) There will be a rolling lockout open during all split rounds. Each time it will close at the start of a game, the exact same as SC. FA closes with first bounce each weekend unless it's a Thursday and we then close on the Friday night game start <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]2(g) Home teams will be required to post a match review no later than 2 days after the last AFL match (i.e. last game on Sunday, review posted on Tuesday). FA has a rostered list of reviewers <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]3. FINALS <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]3(b) In the first week the finals structure will be 1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, 4 v 5.FA 1st chooses their opponent from the final 8 bottom 4, then 2nd, then third
    3(c) In the second week of the finals, the four winners from the previous weeks finals will playoff in seeded matches, the winner of 1st v 8th will play the winner of 4th v 5th and the winner of 2nd v 7th will play the winner of 3rd v 6th. Similar with the above variance to initial matches <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]4. TRADES <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]4(a) Preseason Trade Period opens early November until the end of January of the next year. Trading is then open during preseason draft but closes at midnight on the day the preseason draft concludes. Midseason trade period runs during the three bye rounds (see point h). FA has totally different trade periods post season, essentially free for all at end of season till a point in November, then open again in January, FA now also trades during drafts. <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]4(d) Trades can be vetoed if a majority of 5 non-participating teams cast a veto vote. FA has a veto rule, don't recall it exactly but requires a league majority from memory, never happened. <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]4(e) Teams will have roughly 48 hours to veto a trade proposed (e.g. If a trade is proposed at 2.15pm on a Tuesday, ORFFU coaches have until 2.15pm on a Thursday to cast their votes. The Commissioner will then check and ratify the trade or veto. FA this is the Trade managers job <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]5. DELISTMENTS <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]5(a) Pre-Season Draft delistments must be completed by 12 midnightEST, Wednesday February 11th; ORFFU lists can be no greater than 26 players. FA, period varies but will always be within the week prior to draft commencing <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]5(c) ORFFU lists may be cut to fewer than 20 players. However, if you cut your list to less than 10 player's questions will be asked about WTF you're doing with your team in this competition - rightfully so and serious questions will be asked about your commitment with the possible removal from ORFFU. FA requires that you draft 6 players per season, a minimum of 4 must be in the preseason draft, if you choose to draft all 6 in the PSD than participation in the MSD is voluntary not compulsory. <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]5(d) If an ORFFU list exceeds 26 players by the deadline mentioned above, players will be delisted from that team for them (2014 averages from lowest to highest) to take the list down to 26 players and the coach will be in serious risk of losing their place in the ORFFU. FA requires that team lists must be at 24 or less prior to the PSD, if not the draft manager force delists on whatever basis he feels awesome <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]5(e) To be eligible for the Mid-Season Draft you must delist players by 7pm EST, Wednesday June 17th, ORFFU lists can be no greater than 26 players. FA see above, very different criteria for both drafts due to the compulsory delists <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]6. DRAFT <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]6(a) The Pre-Season Draft will commence on February 14th 2015 at 10:00am EST. FA Date varies according to season, usually starts after 2nd weekend of NAB circus <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]6(b)[span style='background-color: white;]12 hour (maximum) time limit on picks. If you don't pick within time you will be given the highest ranked player on 2014 averages. If the time limit isn't practical, you must notify the ORFFU in advance - i.e. if it is one or two picks before yours but you are flat out at work or have a wedding etc then post that you may need to extend your 12 hours. Alternatively, nominate a proxy and give them a standby list. FA 18 hours <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]6(c) Teams must continue to draft until their lists are at 26 players. FA 28 players <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]6(f) Mid-Season Draft is not compulsory to participate in. FA see above for delistment rules <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7. COMMITTMENT <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7(b) During the regular home and away season the home teams will be required to post a match review no later than 2 days after the last AFL match (i.e. last game on Sunday, review posted on Tuesday). FA see above re review roster <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7(c) Trade requests must be responded to within 1 week of the trade request being sent during any approved trade window.[span style='background-color: white;]Common sense exceptions are obviously allowed - i.e. you're on holidays and have previously stated this fact. FA no rules apply, ie sometimes we may just hate you enough to not reply at all J <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7(d) Delisting players to below 20 on your list will raise serious questions about your commitment with the possible removal from ORFFU. FA this has been done, and to good effect, bleeding is not considered bad until you are dead. <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7(e) Greater than two weeks of no activity or contact at any point in the year (without prior notice of unavailability) is considered grossly inappropriate, and will result in board discussion regarding your tenability to the position of an ORFFU coach. FA not required. <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7(f) When the Commissioner or the Board inquire into a coach's commitment to ORFFU, they are required to respond within 1 week of the request being sent for the first time, all further requests for that inquiry must be responded to within 24 hours. FA has a Commish and 2 deputies, we make it up as we go, so far no-one has been hurt as a result <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7(g) Opinions are sought from all ORFFU members on all issues. This will occur through polls, forum posts, PM's, and emails. A lack of opinion on a 'few' matters is acceptable, a lack of opinion on 'most' matters shows a lack of interest in the ORFFU and will bring your membership into question. FA - Lack of opinion means you agree with me <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]7(m) Participate! This league will only be a success and an enjoyment if all coaches try to make it that way. <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;] <p style='margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-color: white;][span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]8. POSITIONS OF POWER[span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]

    8(a) All official positions will be vacated at year's end 2 weeks after the ORFFU Grand Final is completed. Official positions are: Commissioner and the Board (made up of the Commissioner and 4 other ORFFU coaches). FA League elects a Commissioner, the rest is up to him though important roles tend to stay with the same people

    8(b) 2 weeks after the ORRFU Grand final is completed nominations will be called for the Commissioner position first, coaches will have 48 hours to nominate in the Commissioner Nominations&amp;rdquo; thread. Once closed, a poll will be conducted if there is more than one nomination received; if not the sole nomination is accepted to the position without a poll. Where more than one nomination is received all coaches must vote for a candidate within 48 hours after the poll has been issued. The candidate with the most votes wins the position. Where a poll is tied the exiting Commissioner will cast a tie breaker vote if not nominated, if nominated then existing Commissioner will hold his position as Commissioner. FA - Think Bernie Ecclestone

    8(d) Once the Commissioner position is filled coaches will have 48 hours to nominate in the Board Nominations&amp;rdquo; thread. Once closed, a poll will be conducted if there are more than four nominations received; if not those nominated will be accepted to the positions without a poll. Where more than four nominations are received all non-nominated coaches must vote for 4 candidates within 48 hours after the poll has been issued. The four candidates with the most votes win the positions. Where a poll is tied the new Commissioner will cast tie breaker votes. FA - See above re god like powers for the Commish

    8(e) Where there is less than 3 nominations the new Commissioner will make a call on the Board numbers for that year. FA as Above

    8(f) A coach can only hold a position of power consecutively for 3 terms and cannot nominate in the fourth year for that position. FA as Above

    8(h) The role of the Board is a body of elected or appointed members who jointly oversee the operations of the Outer Regional Fantasy Football Union known as ORFFU. This encompasses discussing matters of issue raised in ORFFU, proposing a variety of recommendations to those issues for a collective and united solution / decision and assist the Commissioner with ensuring the success and enjoyment of the ORRFU for all that are way too serious for fantasy football. FA has no board&amp;rdquo; but the triumvirate play the same role, and would genuinely get nothing done without the support of the FA coaches. [span style='color: black; padding: 0cm; border: 1pt none windowtext;]


     
  16. anthak

    anthak Moderator Staff Member

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    I hope they get your sense of humor, Lenh
     
  17. Len

    Len Cockburn Knightrider Staff Member

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    anthak wrote:
    I hope they get your sense of humor, Lenh
    me too :) I'm much funnier after a couple of Monkey's Shoulders, will re-edit tonight, so many rules! I started out serious but got to the point where it was hard to stay there :p
     
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    grav Guest

    Awesome work Len. The humour just elevated it to 'required reading'
     
  19. thokash

    thokash Full-Time Magician Staff Member

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    Thanks for the research Len. Some rules seem slightly old and outdated (including the ORFFL rules), as you said TS Leagues has replaced a lot of the functionality. I think the important differences to decide on is squad size, as well as delistings and drafting after the squad size is agreed upon. In relation to 26 vs 28 squad size, coming from the ORFFL we opt for the 26 option. In the 4 years of the ORFFL, there have been many, many, 0's scored by teams not being able to field a full 15 players, mostly from the lower teams (humble brags - don't think I've ever copped a 0, except for a late withdrawal ruck with no emergency). How has the ORFFA been going with an additional 2 squad players? I'm actually not that certain it would make too much difference, again given it's the lower teams being affected, they would normally opt for youth over job security. I'm used to squads of 26, but not against increased to 28 if others have strong opinions on it. Quick note about the delistings and drafting, I think it's important to have a high number of delistings required to get squad turnover. I know I've personally had to make some tough cuts, a lot of my ex-ORFFL players are currently are other ORFFL clubs scoring very well - it gives the lower teams much more of a chance to move up the ladder in a timely manner. It also just makes a much more interesting draft, the PSD is always 100+ picks, and MSD tend to be around 30-40 players (although this is an optional delisting period). Can't make any proposals until the squad size is sorted, but ORFFL is the same as ORFFU posted above. Finals - big advocate for picking your opposition. I have a 1-4 record in finals after finishing top 4 every season, it helps you build rivalries and is just good fun and banter picking opponents. From a logic perspective, given the ORFF* competitions are a lot more 'random' than the AFL, I've seen teams that finish 7th or 8th actually be the 2nd or 3rd best team in the competition on overall points which brings into question the 'fairness' of that. In any case, I'm all for it, and ORFFU should consider changing this! As I think of more I'll post.
     
  20. Bearfly

    Bearfly Moderator Staff Member

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    Apologies for not commenting here earlier, been waiting to get my new laptop which has finally arrived (although I had to think for a bit to remember my log-in details for TS)!!! Am definitely still keen to get involved, and am still chatting to the missus regarding her potential involvement - will keep you posted there. As for jobs/assistance running the new ORFF league, I can put my hand up to produce the draw when the time comes - other than that I am unsure if study commitments will enable further involvement, will have to wait and see. I like the idea of 28 player lists - or maybe a variance on the other leagues with perhaps a 26 player primary list and a 4 player rookie list which can only be called on in the event of LTI's (rules/guidelines to be determined). With finals, I believe the choosing of opponents used in ORFFL is a pretty solid option. Will post other thoughts as the crop up.
     

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