ORFFF Players aged 30 or over

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  1. TheTassieHawk

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    the following article is a month or so out of date but is an interesting take ahead of offseason trading and list management
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-13/over-30s-stay-or-go

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    WHEN a player reaches the ripe old age of 30, he inevitably comes under scrutiny from fans and from his club's list manager. Is he still contributing enough justify his spot on the list?

    ORFFF.com.au reporters take a look at every club and every player who will be over 30 at the start of next season, and make the call on whether he should stay or go. Up first are the 11 listed players who are considered most likely to hang them up at the end of the season.

    Andrew Walker (BLACK SWAMP)
    In a similar situation to Jamison, being contracted until the end of next season. Walker, 30, reached a career milestone (200 games) in round 15 but has struggled for form recently and fitness with an ongoing knee problem. GO

    Adam Cooney (BLACK SWAMP)
    The Brownlow medallist is coming to the end of a two-year deal with Essendon after crossing from the Western Bulldogs. He has improved his form markedly since last season, but has said he will wait until the end of the year before making a call on whether to go on. Cooney turns 31 in October. GO

    Dane Swan (BLACK SWAMP)
    The Pies want him to play on next year, or attempt to, but a few factors are weighing against that happening, namely the magnitude of his season-ending foot injury, the fact he'll be 33 before the 2017 season even starts, and the club putting him up for auction during the Midseason draft period. GO

    James Gwilt (DROUIN)
    Gwilt, who turns 30 in August, has been serviceable in his two seasons at Essendon since crossing to the Bombers at the end of 2014. The former Saints defender has added valuable experience, particularly this season, to the Bombers' backline and it will be interesting to see if he is offered another contract once his one-year deal expires at the end of this season. GO

    Matthew Pavlich (DROUIN)
    The Dockers' greatest player is set to reach the 350-game milestone soon and should also pass 700 goals. He will retire at the end of the year at 34 and is a lock for the Australian Football Hall of Fame. GO

    Sam Fisher (Jan Juc)
    The 34-year-old has performed well as an undersized key defender when he has been on the park, but a persistent hamstring injury has kept him on the sidelines in recent times. With Jake Carlisle available next year, Fisher will likely be pushed out. GO

    Nick Dal Santo (Maralinga)
    The former Saint has been an outstanding servant in his three years at Arden Street and deserves to go out on his terms. The out-of-contract 32-year-old's skills are as sharp as ever but his body appears to be slowing down. GO

    Ivan Maric (Mole Creek)
    A workhorse ruckman, the 30-year-old has put his body through a lot in 11 seasons and it has caught up with him in 2016, managing just three games and only one since round six. The vice-captain has mostly found himself in the VFL when not injured. GO

    Drew Petrie (Mt Thirsty)
    Wants to play on but his form has tailed off after an impressive 2015. With the next generation of Roos key forwards pushing up, it appears to be the right time for North to look to the future, with Petrie turning 34 in October. GO

    Ben McGlynn (Rutherglen)
    The midfielder was dropped last week and has struggled for consistency after a horror 2015. Out of contract at the end of the season, turns 31 in August, and will battle to keep younger players at bay. GO

    Jay Schulz (Useless Loop)
    The 31-year-old forward looks to be on the outer, having kicked three goals in as many games after missing the start of the season with back surgery. Schulz rejected a two-year contract last year before being forced to sign a one-year deal. GO

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    Up next are another 40 or so listed players who are considered most likely to go again at the end of the season.

    Stefan Martin (MT THIRSTY)
    The athletic ruckman has played every game this season, but reached nowhere near the heights of his 2014-15 form. He turns 30 in November and, in the first year of a four-year deal, will be around for a long time yet. STAY

    Brendon Goddard (MT THIRSTY)
    Essendon's stand-in captain this season continues to be an important member of the Bombers' line-up. The 31-year-old is in contract talks to play on at the club beyond this season, with his 300th AFL game in sight next season. STAY

    Michael Rischitelli (Mt Thirsty)
    Shattering news at the weekend with the 30-year-old rupturing his ACL. The heart and soul of the club, Rischitelli is contracted for 2017 and will be determined to make it back on the field. STAY

    Jobe Watson (MT THIRSTY)
    Watson is working overseas and still deciding whether he returns to football next season once his anti-doping suspension ends. The captain, 31, is contracted but has admitted the past four seasons has drained his enthusiasm for the game at stages. If he wants to come back, it will be a major boost for the club. STAY

    Sam Mitchell (Mt THirsty)
    Already locked in. Mitchell has been given another one-year contract for next season, and why not? He turns 34 after the season but is still averaging 29.5 disposals and 5.7 clearances a game. STAY

    Sam Gibson (Mt Thirsty)
    Notched 100 consecutive games since his debut last Sunday against the Eagles and his run is crucial for the Roos' midfield. Only just turned 30 and will still be in the best 22 next season. STAY

    Jed Adcock (Mt Thirsty)
    The former Brisbane Lions skipper is only taking up a rookie spot and was a handy replacement during the club's injury predicament earlier in the season. The 30-year-old says he still has plenty to offer and isn't considering retirement yet. STAY

    Corey Enright (JAN JUC)
    Everyone expected this would be the 34-year-old champion's last season but he has defied age by being among the Cats' best all season. The club will talk to him about 2017 this month as he becomes the club's games record holder but he will be allowed to make the call. Otherwise he's a potential coach. STAY

    Gary Ablett (JAN JUC)
    Now 32, the Suns champion was in the midst of an excellent season before Saturday's shoulder injury. Still has two years on his contract and plenty of good football ahead. STAY

    Harry Taylor (JAN JUC)
    The youngest of the veterans has just passed 30 but he was in good form in the first half of the season after an indifferent 2015. He is a strong intercept mark who relies on a good midfield to be at his best. He is contracted until the end of 2018. STAY

    Bernie Vince (Jan Juc)
    Vince is the oldest player on Melbourne's list, turning 31 at the start of October. The reigning best and fairest winner's future is already secure, having signed with the Demons until the end of 2017. With the footy he is producing, there should be no reason why he can't keep playing beyond that. STAY

    Jarrad Waite (Jan Juc)
    Was pushing into All Australian contention before succumbing to a lingering hip issue. Hasn't lost his athleticism or vice-like marking and, although he's turning 34 in February, will surely be offered a new deal for next season. STAY

    Mark LeCras (Jan Juc)
    He turns 30 in August and the injury issues of 2012-2014 are in the rear-view mirror. He has been down on form this season but he is held to a very high standard. He has another year to run on his four-year deal and remains a key to the Eagles' premiership chances. STAY

    Kade Simpson (USELESS LOOP)
    The vice-captain, who becomes an unrestricted free agent this year, should play on. Simpson, 32, has been a mainstay of the Carlton defence and shown great leadership. STAY

    Jon Griffin (USELESS LOOP)
    The 30-year-old signed a contract extension last year until the end of 2017. He's had an indifferent year after fighting his way back into the side late last year but he has to remain given Zac Clarke and Jack Hannath have really struggled to develop. STAY

    David Mundy (USELESS LOOP)
    The skipper is still one of the Dockers' most important players and remains a vital cog in the midfield. He will turn 31 this month and should pass 250 games this year. But he could play 300 on current form. STAY

    Aaron Sandilands (USELESS LOOP)
    He suffered a serious rib and lung injury in round three. At 33, there were concerns about his future, but he is racing to get back this year and signed a one-year extension during the recovery process. STAY - Alex Malcolm

    Steve Johnson (Useless Loop)
    The three-time premiership Cat, 33 in July, is already in talks about extending his playing career in Sydney to a second season, and has been a brilliant recruit for GWS, booting 29 goals from 14 games this year. STAY

    Matthew Priddis (Useless Loop)
    The Brownlow medallist is the oldest player at the club but he is still one of the best. He signed a one-year extension in March and is still setting the standard in the Eagles' midfield. He has plenty of good football ahead of him. STAY

    Eddie Betts (COCKBURN)
    The electric small forward, who turns 30 in November, has another year to run on the four-year deal he signed with the Crows at the end of 2013. Betts is in terrific form, having kicked 41 goals in the opening 15 games of the season, and shows no sign of slowing down. STAY

    Scott Thompson (COCKBURN)
    The 33-year-old inside midfielder continues to front up each and every week ahead of his 300th game this weekend against Collingwood. Thompson has indicated he wants to play on next season, but no deal has been finalised yet. STAY

    Brent Stanton (COCKBURN)
    Stanton, 30, is one of six suspended Bombers who are yet to make their intentions clear for 2017 once the WADA bans end. The midfielder has a contract offer from the club, but is still weighing up whether to return to football after the mental strain of the past four years. STAY

    Heath Shaw (Cockburn)
    The reigning best and fairest, 30, will go close to winning a second successive Kevin Sheedy Medal after another outstanding year in defence, and his leadership and drive has been fantastic for GWS. Contracted until the end of 2018. STAY

    Matthew Boyd (Cockburn)
    It was a masterstroke by Luke Beveridge to transform the once-prolific midfielder into a defensive playmaker at the start of last season. The 33-year-old still finds plenty of footy, has improved his disposal efficiency and is a general of the backline. STAY
     
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    Jimmy Bartel (BLACK SWAMP
    Was in strong form in the middle of the season, either drifting down back or finding space on the wing. Still hard and tough, the 32-year-old is able to stand up in big moments. Although he sometimes runs his own race on the field, the Cats should offer him the chance to go on. STAY

    Scott Thompson (Black Swamp)
    Still takes one of the opposition's most dangerous forwards – tall or small – and his intercept marking is valuable. Only turned 30 recently and has plenty more to offer, not least experience, to North's backline. STAY

    Justin Westhoff (Black Swamp)
    Turning 30 in October, Westhoff has another year to run on his contract. He provides great versatility in either attack or defence. His experience is vital to an otherwise youthful Power back six. STAY

    Jarrad McVeigh (Black Swamp)
    The co-captain, 31, has overcome a delayed start to the year after off-season knee surgery and has been exceptional across half-back over the past month. Deal expires at the end of 2017. STAY

    Andrew Mackie (CHINCHILLA)
    Has another year on his contract to run and still fills his role as he has for close to 10 years. The 31-year-old will be a good mentor for Jackson Thurlow when he returns next season, and has not lost his touch. STAY

    Ryan Griffen (Chinchilla)
    Back and hamstring injuries have limited Griffen to eight games this season, but his contested ball-winning ability and experience is still vital in the GWS midfield. Turns 30 in July, and is contracted until the end of 2018. STAY

    Leigh Montagna (Chinchilla)
    Signed on for 2017, the 32-year-old has added run and kicking skills to St Kilda's half-back line. Still one of his team's best. STAY

    Heath Grundy (Chinchilla)
    The key defender, 30, has had another fantastic season after finishing fourth in the best fairest last year, and should be in All Australian contention. Contracted until the end of 2017. STAY

    Nick Malceski (Neptune Island)
    After a disappointing first season in Suns colours, Malceski has approached something closer to his best in 15 games this season. About to turn 32, he is comfortably holding his half-back spot and has another year to run on his contract. STAY

    Nick Riewoldt (Neptune Island)
    The 33-year-old is contracted for next season and a move to the wing sees him in All Australian contention. Seems likely to drop the captaincy though. STAY

    Robert Murphy (Neptune Island)
    Before he ruptured his ACL in the dying moments of round 3, the 33-yo was still in the same form that saw him named the 2015 All Australian captain. He hasn't lost any of his trademark speed, agility or skills and recently declared he'd play on in 2017. STAY

    Michael Johnson (RUTHERGLEN)
    The All Australian defender missed nine games last year with a significant hamstring injury and has only played four this season following another hamstring/knee injury in round five. The 31-year-old is contracted for next year and the Dockers are tailoring his recovery towards next season. STAY

    Luke Hodge (Rutherglen)
    The inspirational skipper has had his injury concerns this year – but both the wrist and the knee injuries were sustained through contact, not wear and tear. Has been outstanding in his two games since returning. Hodge, who turned 32 in June, will make the call when he's ready but he appears set to continue. STAY

    Daniel Wells (Rutherglen)
    Sunday's loss to West Coast highlighted just how much the Roos miss the fragile 30-year-old's class and poise. Among the Roos' top handful of players and will most likely push for a two-year contract extension. STAY

    Matt Rosa (Drouin)
    Recruited to help the Suns' leadership, Rosa has been excellent in his 10 games on the wing. Two hamstring injuries have stifled his continuity, but Rosa – who turns 30 in November – fills a spot in which the Suns lack depth. STAY

    Shane Mumford (Drouin)
    Shrugged off concerns over his surgically repaired ankle with great form this year and recently signed a new deal tying him to the club until the end of 2018. Mumford, 30 in July, is still one of the club's most important players thanks to his competitiveness and physicality in the ruck. STAY

    Josh Gibson (Dingo Beach)
    An integral part of the Hawthorn's 'team' defence with his spoiling and releasing, Gibson has missed just the one game so far this year. His preparation and professionalism is legendary at Hawthorn and he seems good to go again, despite turning 33 ahead of round one, 2017. STAY

    Sam Gilbert (Dingo Beach)
    Contracted for 2017, Gilbert turns 30 in August and his versatility has been crucial for Alan Richardson. He's been forced to line up on tall forwards due to injuries in defence, but the midfield is where Gilbert can contribute most to the team. STAY

    Danyle Pearce (HEARD ISLAND)
    He signed a two-year contract extension to remain at Fremantle until the end of 2018 when the Dockers were 0-7. The Dockers clearly see the 30-year-old's experience as very important during their rebuild. STAY

    Shaun Burgoyne (Maralinga)
    Burgoyne is still Hawthorn's 'break glass in case of emergency' player', for the key clearance, crunching tackle or steadying goal. He also turns 34 in the off-season and his future depends on how he and the team finish off the season. So far, so good. STAY

    Brent Harvey (Port Lincoln)
    Remains one of North's most dangerous players as he edges towards the all-time games record. Harvey, who turns 39 next May, still breaks the lines, make good decisions and hits the scoreboard (25 goals this season) like few other Roos can. STAY

    Jordan Lewis (Wedge Island)
    Was almost dropped after the GWS debacle in round six, but the proverbial kick up the backside that followed had the desired effect and the 30-year-old has been among the Hawks' best nearly every week since. He leads the club in clearances and stoppages. Is contracted through 2017. STAY

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    FREE AGENTS
    the following players are not currently on a list and unless clubs are very hard hit by 2017 retirements, delistment and position changes most would be unlikely to be drafted in the 2017 PSD

    Dennis Armfield (FREE AGENT)
    The fan favourite, who turns 30 in December and becomes an unrestricted free agent this year, has performed consistently as a small forward who has improved his conversion. STAY

    Zac Dawson (FREE AGENT)
    Ross Lyon's trusted key defender is contracted until the end of 2017. The Dockers are developing Sam Collins and Alex Pearce, and given where they want to go it would seem strange to keep the 30-year-old, but they may need insurance. STAY

    Tom Lonergan (FREE AGENT)
    With no obvious replacement for big jobs (e.g. Lance Franklin) the Cats should be in no rush to move the 32-year-old on. Out of contract at year's end, he is understood to want to play on and will be a role model for promising Ryan Gardner. STAY

    Heritier Lumumba (FREE AGENT)
    Lumumba has had a difficult season dealing with the effects of two concussions, which have restricted him to just five games. The defender, who turns 30 in November, signed a three-year deal when he joined the Demons at the start of last season, meaning he has another year to run on his contract. STAY

    Sean Dempster (FREE AGENT)
    Knee surgery forced him out for three matches but the 32-year-old remains a crucial part of the back six. Out of contract at season's end but barring any further missed games, the club will likely seek to secure his services for another year. STAY

    Sam Butler (FREE AGENT)
    The 30-year-old has played on one-year contracts for the last couple of seasons, but his often-troubled body is in the best shape of his career. He played 17 games last year, a career-high, and has missed just two games this year. He wants to keep going and insiders think he has more to give. STAY

    Dale Morris (FREE AGENT)
    Where would the Bulldogs be without the ever-reliable stopper? The versatile 33-year-old's stellar form this season has kept Eddie Betts goalless before curbing the influence of Jesse Hogan. He wouldn't look out of place in this year's All Australian team. STAY

    Nathan van Berlo (FREE AGENT)
    The former captain has played just three games in the seniors through a combination of selection and injury. The 30-year-old has fallen down the pecking order behind some of his younger teammates and he's unlikely to be offered a new contract. GO

    Daniel Merrett (FREE AGENT)
    Has played 13 games, but regularly leaked bags of goals to his opponents – not always his own fault. Is due to play his 200th game in round 22 against Geelong at the Gabba, which would be a fitting farewell for the popular Lion, who turns 32 in December. GO -

    Michael Jamison (FREE AGENT)
    Jamison, 30, was struggling for form before becoming ill almost two months ago. Reached the 150-game milestone in round eight and is contracted until the end of next season, but much depends on his state of mind. GO

    Tendai Mzungu (FREE AGENT)
    The mature-age recruit reached the 100-game milestone earlier this year but he is unlikely to play too many more. Mzungu, 30, has been a loyal servant but he has slogged away in the WAFL for most of the year before suffering a hamstring injury just recently. GO

    Joel Patfull (FREE AGENT)
    The veteran defender, 31, has been solid in 13 games this season but will struggle to hold his place once youngsters Aidan Corr and Caleb Marchbank return from injury before the finals. Out of contract at the end of the season. GO

    Michael Firrito (FREE AGENT)
    Still playing solid footy after signing a one-year deal for this season but it feels like the right time to hang them up after one last crack at finals. The 32-year-old defender has long been the subject of retirement talk and won't have left anything in the tank. GO

    Farren Ray (FREE AGENT)
    Was worth a punt in the rookie draft and has been handy when called upon, however the Roos have some promising midfielders in the VFL and it's difficult to see Ray, 30, receiving as many opportunities next year. GO

    Troy Chaplin (FREE AGENT)
    The key defender is coming to the end of a four-year deal in which he has given great service, but the 30-year-old's output has dropped this season, playing eight games (the most recent in round 11). The Tigers have their eyes on the future down back. GO

    Ted Richards (FREE AGENT)
    A pre-season calf problem, plus a broken cheekbone and concussion have limited the veteran to seven games this year, and he's no longer an automatic selection. Richards, 33, is out of contract at season's end and will likely move onto a career in finance. GO

    Will Minson (FREE AGENT)
    The Bulldog has been largely out of favour under Luke Beveridge's regime of versatility. It's been a sad end to the 2013 All Australian's time at Whitten Oval and the 31-year-old looks destined to retire just a few games short of the 200-game mark. GO
     
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    Interesting list!
    We'll be keeping our old farts, including Stanton who has now signed on for next year
     
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    Impressive work
     
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    Hey well done on this.
    Danyle Pearce. Not sure if I'll keep him or not
     
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    So whats the breakdown of over 30s per club?
     
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    adding the first 2 sections above would give an approximate number but there may be errors or omissions (ie James Kelly not mentioned above, presumably because he is only a top up at the Bombers)

    The analysis was done at the start of the season and basically Useless Loop, Mt Thirsty, Black Swamp and Jan Juc = greybeards
    while Walpole, Mole Creek, Heard Island = babies (as far as I remember)

    Neptune Island and Drouin appear to be very young sides although they also seemed to have quite good runs with injury this year compared to some of the unluckier teams.
     
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    Damn I do have a lot of oldies don't I. Huge gap in the 22-27 age bracket for the Ducks, might have to rectify that - post season trade period coming up!
     
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    He probably won't have much trade value as a MID but it depends on 2017 positions for him and others and who you can trade in prior to the PSD. As is there would have to be 4 or 5 players you would definitely cut before him and a few around the same level.

    Black Swamp has 3 retirements thus far in Walker, Swan and Cooney. Kelly would likely make a 4th so our enforced cuts will definitely be minimal unless we bring players in through trades.
     
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