AFL Womens Comp Details Discussion Thread

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  1. TheTassieHawk

    TheTassieHawk SC fanatic Staff Member

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    As per the recent blog post we are keen to see if an AFLW based comp can be up and running for 2019

    If you haven't already joined please do so asap at http://tooserious.net/forum/threads...anchises-please-register-interest-here.90305/

    This is the place to kick around some ideas about all of the key stuff like scoring, team and squad size, drafts, trades, annual forced delisting, fixtures, finals etc etc etc

    Key dates depend a fair bit on the AFLW fixture so here is the link
    http://www.afl.com.au/womens/matches

    Please note this OP will be edited as required to reflect key decisions as they are made

    Go for it
     
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    TheTassieHawk SC fanatic Staff Member

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    TTH’s thoughts and proposals part 1

    At this stage AFL Fantasy and Draftstars seems to be the most used scoring system around the traps. BigFooty has an AFLW based comp that has used a different formula which would require upload of a wide range of stats then calculation based on that formula. I reckon the simplicity of a single number suggests that AFL Fantasay/Draftstars is best for us in 2019 but propose that we revisit this via an annual preseason majority vote if alternative mainstream scoring systems present themselves.

    I propose holding 2019 roster season for 8 to 10 teams over 5 rounds then a 2 week 1v4, 2v 3 semi-final and grand final series. I would also suggest that from Round 2 onwards the roster may be based on a Winners of previous matches format rather than predrawn matchups which reduces the likelihood of teams benefiting from an easy draw or someone finishing 5th with 4 wins and 1 loss and missing finals. If we only get 6 teams then we should play a full round robin then play 2nd vs 3rd in a prelim with minor premiers getting the week off or play a 6 round season with the top 2 playing in the Grand Final.

    I am keen to exclude all Rookie listed players and players taking the year off (regardless of the reason) and will propose that deem these players as INACTIVE and all other players as ACTIVE. The reason being that this allows for either expansion or equalisation in 2020 if either is required.

    For a variety of reasons I think it would be better to go for something similar to the TS Addicts format with teams of 8 (2D-3M-2F-1R) but with 2 emergencies named to cover all 4 lines instead of 1. Hopefully we can use TSleagues but otherwise it will be by posting teams on blogs or spreadsheet based. Teams of 15 ORFF* style could be considered but in my opinion would make the draft process a logistical nightmare for anyone who isn’t prepared to commence the draft in the first week of January, unless we end up with only 6 teams. This could also be revisited annually by majority vote.

    My proposal is that as usual with TS comps half points would apply for any out of position players including emergencies that get a late call up. One adjustment (subject to ease of TSleagues coding) would be that I would propose that on field dpp players can be shuffled as needed before the emergency takes the place of the player who they replace and also that the first named emergency (Emergency) 1 is called up before the second named emergency (Emergency 2) except where Emergency 2 is called up instead of Emergency 1 if this means that there is no out of position penalty needed but there is if Emergency 1 is called up for Emergency 1).

    I am personally not a fan of switching players in and out of squads every week of the season per the Addicts and other draft type comps unless there is a very low limit to transactions and this be accompanied by a rule that players must have been on the roster continuously from week 4 (or earlier) to be eligible to play finals.

    If the above is adopted I would recommend that we each draft 15 ACTIVE players per team in the inaugural player draft. Subject to 2019 AFLW player positions being known (presumably from the 2019 AFLW prospectus or other sources) the draft could start on January 11 and be finished by January 28 (Australia day weekend) or earlier. All ACTIVE players would be eligible to be picked however each team would be limited to a maximum of 3 R-eligible players including dpp.
     
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    TTH’s thoughts and proposals part 2
    I also propose that the inaugural draft would be a bonsai draft where the random Team 1 to Team 8 order for Round 1 is reversed (Team 8 to Team 1) for Round 2, then the reversed order (Team 8 to 1) is repeated in Round 3, before reversing each round thereafter in regular snake style meaning that there is a reduced advantage to those teams with the first 2 picks in the first round.

    Round 1 AFLW teams will be named on Thursday 31 January. At that stage an optional supplementary preseason draft takes place, first in best dressed so that teams aren’t starting 3 to 4 players short going into the season. Any players in the 15 player squad can be replaced by an ACTIVE Free Agent provided that
    · the new player is aged 21yo or older as at January 1st 2019 and is named for Round 1
    · the replaced player is not named for Round 1
    · the team does not exceed the maximum of 3 R-eligible players.

    Post Round 3 there will be a midseason draft commencing at 6pm on Tuesday 18th February and concluding by 11pm on Friday 22nd February. It would be run on reverse ladder order as at Round 3. Team lists expand from 15 to 16 players so the draft is compulsory and teams can also choose to delist one of their 15 players by 9pm on Monday 17th February if they wish to select a 2nd player in the second round of the midseason draft. Once again any selected player must be aged 21yo or older as at January 1st 2019 and the team must not exceed the maximum of 3 R-eligible players.

    In January 2020 (and subsequent seasons) teams would be allowed retain a maximum of 9 players (with a maximum of 2 R eligible players). Teams would be able to nominate one player as an INACTIVE LISTED 10th player if they are sitting out the 2020 AFLW season The Preseason draft would be based on reverse ladder order after finals to take their lists back to 15 (or 16 for teams with a nominated INACTIVE LISTED player) for the first half of the 2020 season, with the 3 R eligible players restriction applying inclusive of INACTIVE listed players. There would be no supplementary draft in future seasons and the midseason draft would always be 2 weeks prior to finals commencing (ie 4 weeks before the end of the AFLW season) and would be limited to players aged 21 years old or older as at January 1st.

    I would be happy for trading to be allowed prior to Round 1 lockout each season including 2019 provided that trades involve players only so we don’t need to track changes to the normal draft order. Trades prior to the preseason draft can be for uneven numbers basis (ie 2 for 1, 3 for 2) but those after the inaugural draft or preseason draft until Round 1 lockout would be 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3 basis only. Trading would not be allowed at midseason.

    As always this always sounds much more complicated than it will be in practice so feel free to shoot holes, spitball alternative ideas, ask for clarification and give feedback on which parts actually make sense and have support. If I have overlooked something important then please let us know ASAP. Ideally we would want to have a set of agreed principles more or less in place by 31st December and we can figure out the final number of teams we are running with a week out from the draft commencing.
     
  4. Len

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    I think it's a well thought out approach, with regard to swapping the DPP players to access E1 instead of E2 I am assuming are you suggesting a manual process (Assuming @walesy can get a scoring system working)?
    Uploading the players may be an issue if we are limited to one DB here (NFI if we are), if not an issue though I'd suggest we use ts to name and manage the teams even if scoring does have to be done off site.
    Would love it to be integrated and 100% agree on the addicts approach for teams listing, as well as the other limitations you have suggested around that.

    Great stuff as usual mate :)
     

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